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  • Qigong and acne

    Dear forum members,

    Are there any good qigong exercises that can overcome acne? How do I visualize qi flowing to my acne? I want to desperately get rid of it as it is demoralizing and embarassing.

    Thank you

    -Stephen

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    Hello Stephen,

    Thanks for the question. I will attempt to answer in 2 parts.

    Are there any good qigong exercises that can overcome acne?
    The answer is yes. More specifically though, any high level Chi Kung exercise will help. So you should learn a high level exercise (any one) from a master if you want the best results. BUT although the acne may be a major concern for your conscious mind, you may well have other more urgent conditions in you which you may not even know about. As the nature of Chi is to work for your best benefit, it may take some time until the acne disappears.
    If you do not have the opportunity to learn personally from a master or a competent instructor, then attempt Lifting the Sky from any of Sifu's books. It is a wonderful exercise and will help. But you must follow the instructions as well as you can - and heed any warnings.

    How do I visualize qi flowing to my acne?
    Visualisation is actually quite "simple" but the skill required should be acquired from a master. Follow the instructions you are given by the master / instructor or from Sifu's books - whichever method you decide to use to learn. Do not try to be smarter than the master and add, remove or modify things.

    Good luck,
    WahnamCH
    Sifu Andrew Barnett
    Shaolin Wahnam Switzerland - www.shaolin-wahnam.ch

    Flowing Health GmbH www.flowing-health.ch (Facebook: www.facebook.com/sifuandrew)
    Healing Sessions with Sifu Andrew Barnett - in Switzerland and internationally
    Heilbehandlungen mit Sifu Andrew Barnett - in der Schweiz und International

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    • #3
      Thank you very much for your reply. It is much appreciated. However, I cannot find any of sifu's books on qigong. I have only the Tai Chi Chuan book, which is a wondeful book that has taught me so much. Can you please advise me on how to visualize safely? I understand its consqeuences completely in wrong visualization.

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      • #4
        Books

        You can order Sifu's books on Chi Kung from http://www.amazon.co.uk but not from .com as they have no stock.

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        • #5
          Have you considered other options for your acne?
          For example. Herbs, acupuncture, Eastern or western doctor, diet.
          Is this chronic?
          Chi Kung might not be your best option at this moment.
          Chi Kung ensures a persons survival first. Then Chi works on improving quality of life.
          Should you begin Chi Kung training without supervision, you might not get any results to you acne problem. Not that you would be doing the exercise incorrectly. Your chi may be working on something more serious. Therefore your acne problem will still be there.
          Also, when you do begin Chi Kung training, you may go through a short period where you acne could be worse than ever before. As your chi will not pay much attention to your acne problem, but to something else that your chi may be fixing.

          Genuine Chi Kung is very powerful. After you put in correct, consistent training under the supervision of a qualified instructor, or master, you gain tremendous benefits of health, vitality, and quality of life.

          Reading from the internet, or books, will give you an intellectual understanding at most.

          Trying to accomplish a high level art without supervision, could mean trouble.

          If you have a headache, take an aspirin.
          If you have a tumour, have it removed.
          If you know what the problem is, find the most simple, direct and effective solution.

          I hope this helps.


          Anton

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          • #6
            Hi,

            I used to suffer from terrible acne, and still have it now, although no where near as bad (I'm 22). I completely understand how you feel about it. I still feel a little robbed somehow of my younger years, as I had zero confidence thanks to being ashamed of how I looked.

            I took the Bath Chi Kung course last year, which was really fantastic. I am sorry to say however, that may skin has not improved since practising Chi Kung. This is not a fault with Chi Kung though (who am I to judge), but more to do with..

            a) my level of Chi Kung is still very low
            b) as mentioned, I may have more importanting things that need attention - The Chi is too busy to attend to my skin! and...
            c) I have not concentrated on curing my skin in practise - that is, I have never tried to specifically rid my skin problem.

            Warmly,

            Jordan.

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            • #7
              Thank you all on the insight. I have recently visited western doctors but to no avail since the medicine treats the symptoms, not the cause. I also heard Yi Jin Jing improves skin quality-- any comments on this?

              Best regards,
              Stephen

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              • #8
                Have you tried a Chinese doctor? A good one can really work wonders on all kinds of ailments using acupuncture and herbs.
                Last edited by Antonius; 20 February 2003, 02:21 AM.
                Sifu Anthony Korahais
                www.FlowingZen.com
                (Click here to learn more about me.)

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                • #9
                  Stephen,

                  Can you please advise me on how to visualize safely?
                  Yes, as I mentioned before - learn the skill from a master. There is no other way to learn in perfect safety.

                  I understand its consqeuences completely in wrong visualization.
                  I don't think you really understand otherwise you would not be considering attempting this advanced skill without supervision.

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                  If you have a headache, take an aspirin.
                  If you have a tumour, have it removed.
                  I'm afraid I don't agree with these comments at all. This is treating the symptom. If everyone immediately took pills when they had a minor ailment (such as a headache), their own resistance to other pathogens and ailments would reduce consistently. The only winner in this situation would be the drug companies - certainly not the patient! Also, almost every medication has side-effects. If the condition can be taken care of without medication - then try that first.
                  As far as tumours are concerned, let the doctors make the judgement on whether or not it should be removed. A general statement of this type is, IMHO, extremely irresponsible.

                  If you know what the problem is, find the most simple, direct and effective solution.
                  In Chi Kung philosophy you do not need to know what the problem is to use it (Chi Kung) as a simple, direct and effective solution.

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                  WahnamCH
                  Sifu Andrew Barnett
                  Shaolin Wahnam Switzerland - www.shaolin-wahnam.ch

                  Flowing Health GmbH www.flowing-health.ch (Facebook: www.facebook.com/sifuandrew)
                  Healing Sessions with Sifu Andrew Barnett - in Switzerland and internationally
                  Heilbehandlungen mit Sifu Andrew Barnett - in der Schweiz und International

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                  • #10
                    Anton,

                    If you have a headache, take an aspirin.
                    If you have a tumour, have it removed.
                    If you know what the problem is, find the most simple, direct and effective solution.
                    I remember Sifu talking about headaches and aspirin. I don't remember the exact context of the conversation, but he was making a point about being cost effective.

                    A mild headache is easy to cure using chi kung, but a bad headache might take more time and more energy. In this case, it would be more cost effective to simply take an aspirin and use your time and energy for other purposes.

                    I am fairly sure that Sifu was not encouraging people to take an aspirin whenever they have a headache, which is what the above statement implies.

                    I have never heard Sifu speak about tumors in this way. I could be wrong, but the above statement seems to be taken out of context. To me, it seems too rigid. For example, I have a friend with several tumors who is successfully fighting them with Chinese medicine. On the other hand, you and I have a mutual friend who died despite having his tumors removed.

                    I’ll end with a direct quote from Sifu:
                    There are different ways or paradigms of looking at health and medicine. Removing cancerous organs or parts and undergoing chemotherapy is a conventional western way.

                    According to the chi kung paradigm, this is only treating the symptoms, not the cause. Cancerous tumours at your friend's ovaries, womb, spleen, etc are symptoms indicating that her systems are not working naturally. This failure of her systems to work naturally is the real cause of her illness.

                    As long as her systems are not rectified, when a tumour is removed surgically or killed by chemotherapy, another tumour would occur elsewhere. The therapeutic approach should not be just removing the tumours, i.e. symptoms, but restoring her systems , i.e. rectifying the cause. Once her systems work naturally, she would overcome her cancer as a matter of course.
                    Last edited by Antonius; 20 February 2003, 08:23 PM.
                    Sifu Anthony Korahais
                    www.FlowingZen.com
                    (Click here to learn more about me.)

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                    • #11
                      Hi everyone.

                      I'm feeling really happy with my practice, but my skin doesn't with all the acne on top of it.
                      I noticed when I haven't practised Chi Kung / Kung Fu for a couple of days my face gets smoother and more acne free.
                      But when I resume my regular training again, the acne happily returns. What should I do? I still want to keep my regular training though. And visits to a Chinese doctor is really expensive.

                      Thank you in advance!

                      Kan

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                      • #12
                        Are you drinking plenty of water with practice? I find with lot of clearing, that extra liquids are best, or else my skin can also get affected.

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                        • #13
                          Hi Kan,

                          From the Chinese medical perspective, the acne on your face is a good thing! If toxins can't get out via the bladder or the colon, then they try to get out via the skin. Your qigong practice is flushing the toxins out through your skin.

                          When you stop practicing, the toxins sink back in, and the acne clears up.

                          If you are practicing once daily, then try practicing twice daily in order to flush out the toxins. If you're already doing twice daily, then just carry on until you've completely flushed them out.

                          All the best,
                          Sifu Anthony Korahais
                          www.FlowingZen.com
                          (Click here to learn more about me.)

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                          • #14
                            Wow such fast responses! Thanks everybody!

                            @221177, I drink so much water, that my mum thinks there must be hole in my stomach

                            @Anthony siheng, unfortunately due to my daily schedule I can only practice once a day.
                            I'm still using the training program I last posted with a couple of dynamic patterns removed from it and some reduction of time in chi flow.

                            I guess I have to look like Mars with it's craters on it, until the root gets cleared completely. (Still the craters have the same color as its surroundings though compared to the red acne on my face.)

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                            • #15
                              Dear Kan,

                              Don't overdo the drinking water though! Too much may be harmful. Just drink when you feel like it.

                              As a sufferer from acne in my youth, I sympathise

                              Best wishes,

                              Roeland
                              www.shaolinwahnam.nl
                              www.shaolinholland.com

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