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  • Standing Zen Experience - Harm to One is Harm to All

    Hello everyone,

    I want to share an experience I had a week or two ago in and after standing zen practice at the end of my cih-kung session for the day.

    I have recently been experiencing really clear and thoughtless standing zen mediation, and in this particular practice session I had a revelation occur to me.

    When I was thoughtless in meditation, I 'saw' that the idea that common humans think of as *I*, or *you*, are not accurate descriptions of life. I saw that what I normally think of as Alex (or any *I*, actually) is not a unique and separate entity. What I saw was a being who couldn't exist without infinite factors from outside Alex. And that he wouldn't even exist as he knows himself to be without all of these factors. I saw that in fact, that which is outside of Alex's body (all of Earth - all nations - all everything - all space, planets, galaxies, etc) is actually intimately married to him.

    And I 'saw' that somehow the idea of *I* is a misperception, or a inaccurate way of seeing myself. I saw that I could not be, without the world. And that the world could not be as it is without me. So in a sense I saw the world like a very large creature, and what I think of as *Alex* is like a appendage of that creature.

    I 'saw' a very real intertwining with all of reality, and I saw that nothing I do doesn't effect everything. And that there is nothing I can do that ever will not effect everything.

    I came away from that experience with the words, "Harm to One is Harm to All" very strongly resounding inside my mind-heart, as a reminder.

    I have in the past been a very, very individuality-centric person. I won't say I've been a selfish jerk, but I have valued the idea of individuality a LOT. And to me that very idea of individuality is based in the assumption that we are separate entities, that are not effecting the world around us. And that all comes down to our definitions (or assumed definitions) of the words "I" and "you", and related words based on the concepts that exists as natural, inherent offshoots of these two base concepts.

    In that meditation, I 'saw' that the above bolded line simply isn't true. Quite the contrary; I saw that nothing I do isn't effecting everything. But I 'saw' that most people trained from birth in the concepts of *I* and *you* are existing within certain assumptions about who we are that aren't accurate. I saw that these assumptions are causing humanity many many of its problems, as it assumes separation.

    It has been a very meaningful revelation for me. I will carry the words, "Harm to One is Harm to All" with me where ever I go now.

    All the Best,
    Alex
    "Take a moment to feel how wonderful it feels just to be alive."
    - Sifu

  • #2
    Of course, we can't forget the corollary: Good to One is Good to All.

    Thanks for sharing your insight, Siheng.


    Yours,


    Charles
    Charles David Chalmers
    Brunei Darussalam

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    • #3
      Alex Sihing,

      Truly wonderful!!! Thanks for sharing!!!

      Sifu Charles,

      Nice corollary

      Andy
      Sifu Andy Cusick

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      • #4
        Thank you Alex for the inspiring sharing .


        Avoid evil : Harm to one is harm to all.
        Do good : Good to one is good to all.
        Cultivate the Mind : One pointed mind dissolves in the All .


        When Many is focused to One , it dissolves to Zero in the Void.....
        Damian Kissey
        Shaolin Wahnam Sabah , Malaysia .
        www.shaolinwahnamsabah.com

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        • #5
          Deeper and deeper.

          This could be the "Cosmic Wisdom" Thread
          Sifu Andy Cusick

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          • #6
            Damian,

            Your reply reminds me of another saying this experience inspired in me:

            We not me;
            The all, not we;
            The void, not the all.
            "Take a moment to feel how wonderful it feels just to be alive."
            - Sifu

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            • #7
              Dear Alex,

              Wonderful experience!

              Now, please take a look at the thread "Understanding Zen" in this Forum, with some parts quoted below, taken from posts no. 16, 19, 20, and 21:

              What is the difference between wall and bricks?
              Can you separate the wall and its bricks?
              Is the moon and the moonlight separated?

              And,

              What about water and the Ocean?
              Related to this, your morning coffee and the water in the ditch in front of your house, what is their relation?
              Depending on which of my co-workers is making the morning coffee, I would say taste, texture, smell, and appearance...

              ..the difference between all things mentioned is the way you look at it.
              Do you find the above quotations related to your Standing Zen experience?

              Joko
              开心 好运气
              kai xin... .......hao yunqi... - Sifu's speech, April 2005
              open heart... good chi flow... good luck ...
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              • #8
                Joko!

                Do you find the above quotations related to your Standing Zen experience?
                Those quotes EXACTLY represent what I experienced, thank you. Now let me check out that thread you linked to
                "Take a moment to feel how wonderful it feels just to be alive."
                - Sifu

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                • #9
                  Direct Cosmic Wisdom experience - just an experience. Not very important.

                  Sometimes Zen smells like shit. Nothing special.
                  Engage and maintain joyful practice!

                  May all of you get the best benefits from what you do.

                  Anton Schmick
                  Shaolin Wahnam Germany Nord

                  shaolinwahnamchina.com
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                  • #10
                    Smells like it.

                    Smells like it; tastes like it; thank goodness I didn't step in it!


                    Yours,

                    Charles
                    Charles David Chalmers
                    Brunei Darussalam

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                    • #11
                      Dear Charles Sisook,

                      good point: never step in Zen!

                      Thank you!

                      yours,

                      Anton
                      Engage and maintain joyful practice!

                      May all of you get the best benefits from what you do.

                      Anton Schmick
                      Shaolin Wahnam Germany Nord

                      shaolinwahnamchina.com
                      http://chikunghamburg.wordpress.com
                      http://shaolinwahnam-nord.de
                      http://kungfu-luebeck.de

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by antons View Post
                        Not very important.
                        How you can know what is important?
                        "Take a moment to feel how wonderful it feels just to be alive."
                        - Sifu

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                        • #13
                          If it is important, it should be unimportant; no attachment. Laugh at it

                          However, I cannot manage to not make the good meal prepared by my mother that I'm about to enjoy unimportant, I'm still a spiritual infant

                          I'm still laughing, though
                          Last edited by Omar; 11 April 2009, 07:24 PM. Reason: Unimportant spelling
                          When one door closes, another one opens.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Omar View Post
                            If it is important, it should be unimportant; no attachment. Laugh at it

                            However, I cannot manage to not make the good meal prepared by my mother that I'm about to enjoy unimportant, I'm still a spiritual infant

                            I'm still laughing, though
                            If a tree falls in the woods, and you're not there, how do you know it really fell?
                            "Take a moment to feel how wonderful it feels just to be alive."
                            - Sifu

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AlexBaranosky View Post
                              If a tree falls in the woods, and you're not there, how do you know it really fell?

                              Caesars big nose is part of my foot.
                              When one door closes, another one opens.

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