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Hey, some of you know me some of you don't. This is a post about the paradox of life and death and the immortal question 'why', that every intellectual has never satisfied.
This is for those of you for whom death, infinity, and why, keeps you up at night.
Because annoying religionists who think faith is self evident don't understand or fail to explain properly thier revelation to those of us who rely on logic. That which we see and cannot achieve as blind faith, ignorance or bliss.
I'm just gonna describe yesterday.
I crept in on the theosophist societies book talk day. It was a bit of a surprise. Mostly people were doddery old ladies seeking the romance of foreign enlightenment to fill the gaps their current religion missed. Death like a cold wind, and religion and faith thier house, Theosophy is their polyfilla to keep out the chill they've come to noticed. Organised by a burlesque assertive neo pagan, a gaunt modern hippy, and an ex-catholic nun come primary school teacher type who seemed to be in 'teach the children' mode in book review talk. It was quite amusing. We are all as lost as each other. Some happily, some not so much.
I did get into a debate with the chief brain (a staunchly conservative looking man, the David Cameron type) and the ex nun type who mentioned the EU. They seem to be of the impression it was the new Soviet union and that we were all going to become oppressed in an unaccountable faceless machine that uses Polish armies to suppress the British and British armies to suppress the Polish ect. That was fun to discuss, most people I hang around with get bored of the politics but for me it's as fun (and important) as football.
Then once all the people had left I hung around and chatted with the old hippy type who ran, lived in, and was secretary to the Torbay 'Lodge' a greatly peaceable and warm guy called Chris, and a Spanish lady, whose name for the third time I have forgotten. We talked about all sorts, mostly life concepts and where I was and had come from.
I told them about my fear of death thing at 14 and where it had all led me, and they put in their thoughts on the matter. I showed them some philosophical theories they appeared not to know, and paradoxes, and they countered them and such. It was quite fun. I went in at 3 and went home at 11:30.
It was really useful because although they may not have realised it, they helped me immensely.
In many ways we're all as lost as each other, and for that reason, I'm never wowed by spiritualists, or religions. However this fear of death, which still comes every night, drives me to find a way to put it to rest.
It's basically this realisation about death, and the fact that you are dead for infinity. Then I fear the concept of infinity, how can life be infinite. What's the point if it's infinite? A point in something means a goal, at which you end or start again, but for infinity? whats the point?
Christianity with heaven, Buddhism with reincarnation all seem to not explain infinity, in fact fundamentally their argument seem flawed because of the nature of the infinite. Judaic, Christian, Islamic God wiping out sinners with the flood. A futile effort when you realise what infinity is. A God would know the futility in 'ridding the world of sin'.
So this was/is the thought that creeps into my head. The 'why', the 'what's outside of this, what's outside of that then, well what's outside of that?' thought pattern. It's something that cannot be logically put to bed.
...and I cannot find faith because I have no faith that anyone else it right either.
I described faith as being told to crash into a wall with your seat belt on, because someone says the seatbelt will save you.
Some people accept it, some people never question it, some do and have different ones, but I and (I imagine others) just arent convinced.
So because I have no faith in what happens after death and the spirituality of man, I find it hard to put the thought and fear to rest without seeming like I'm just ignoring the problem. So infinity and death has a fear in me because my mind cannot comprehend 'why'.
I told them of Zeno's Paradox of the Tortoise and Achilles. How because of infinity Achilles can never pass the Tortoise. Obviously in reality all he has to do is pass the Tortoise. But with infinity in mind, it should be impossible.
So it proves the flaw of infinity. The proof of infinity is easy, all you have to do is divide 1 by 3. Or 10 by 3. Or however you choose. The calculator will either say Er, or display 3.333333333333333 and if it had the space it would go on for infinity.
Then Chris said something in a sentence he was putting forward. Halfway through he said, ".....,your mind is only good for certain things,.......".
Obviously I thought that was crap, it is by my mind that I comprehend everything. It and all it creates and decides and sees is what is.
Then I realised that it was completely true.
Our logical mind. That is to say, that which we work things out with, not the creative part ect. But the Logical part, the bit that dissects arguments and counters information with facts and makes rational judgement, is a calculator.
This is obvious.
A calculator cannot cut a cake into three equal pieces.
Because of 3.33333 recurring it will never find the place to put the knife.
In that sense, you cannot work out where to cut a cake. The logical mind is doomed to go into overload, its like using tea to make coffee. To cut the cake you must realise that the logical part of your mind will never cut the cake into 3 equal parts, nor is it logically possible to. You have to just cut the cake on creativity and/or faith.
Therefore the brain can never know the spirit, can never know God, or existence. If they exist or if they don't exist is a futile movement of the brain because what we are trying to look for is what is outside that box, outside that box, outside that box, why, but why, but why.
If we try to think about why, we will always eventually end up stuck thinking you cant pass the Tortoise or cut the cake.
So thinking about if and why God exists or the point in life exists is a matter the brain is not capable of knowing because of 3.3333 recurring.
Anyway that doesn't clear up all the questions but it leads me to feel the answer cannot be thought or logical.
Pretty eventful day huh.
This is for those of you for whom death, infinity, and why, keeps you up at night.
Because annoying religionists who think faith is self evident don't understand or fail to explain properly thier revelation to those of us who rely on logic. That which we see and cannot achieve as blind faith, ignorance or bliss.
I'm just gonna describe yesterday.
I crept in on the theosophist societies book talk day. It was a bit of a surprise. Mostly people were doddery old ladies seeking the romance of foreign enlightenment to fill the gaps their current religion missed. Death like a cold wind, and religion and faith thier house, Theosophy is their polyfilla to keep out the chill they've come to noticed. Organised by a burlesque assertive neo pagan, a gaunt modern hippy, and an ex-catholic nun come primary school teacher type who seemed to be in 'teach the children' mode in book review talk. It was quite amusing. We are all as lost as each other. Some happily, some not so much.
I did get into a debate with the chief brain (a staunchly conservative looking man, the David Cameron type) and the ex nun type who mentioned the EU. They seem to be of the impression it was the new Soviet union and that we were all going to become oppressed in an unaccountable faceless machine that uses Polish armies to suppress the British and British armies to suppress the Polish ect. That was fun to discuss, most people I hang around with get bored of the politics but for me it's as fun (and important) as football.
Then once all the people had left I hung around and chatted with the old hippy type who ran, lived in, and was secretary to the Torbay 'Lodge' a greatly peaceable and warm guy called Chris, and a Spanish lady, whose name for the third time I have forgotten. We talked about all sorts, mostly life concepts and where I was and had come from.
I told them about my fear of death thing at 14 and where it had all led me, and they put in their thoughts on the matter. I showed them some philosophical theories they appeared not to know, and paradoxes, and they countered them and such. It was quite fun. I went in at 3 and went home at 11:30.
It was really useful because although they may not have realised it, they helped me immensely.
In many ways we're all as lost as each other, and for that reason, I'm never wowed by spiritualists, or religions. However this fear of death, which still comes every night, drives me to find a way to put it to rest.
It's basically this realisation about death, and the fact that you are dead for infinity. Then I fear the concept of infinity, how can life be infinite. What's the point if it's infinite? A point in something means a goal, at which you end or start again, but for infinity? whats the point?
Christianity with heaven, Buddhism with reincarnation all seem to not explain infinity, in fact fundamentally their argument seem flawed because of the nature of the infinite. Judaic, Christian, Islamic God wiping out sinners with the flood. A futile effort when you realise what infinity is. A God would know the futility in 'ridding the world of sin'.
So this was/is the thought that creeps into my head. The 'why', the 'what's outside of this, what's outside of that then, well what's outside of that?' thought pattern. It's something that cannot be logically put to bed.
...and I cannot find faith because I have no faith that anyone else it right either.
I described faith as being told to crash into a wall with your seat belt on, because someone says the seatbelt will save you.
Some people accept it, some people never question it, some do and have different ones, but I and (I imagine others) just arent convinced.
So because I have no faith in what happens after death and the spirituality of man, I find it hard to put the thought and fear to rest without seeming like I'm just ignoring the problem. So infinity and death has a fear in me because my mind cannot comprehend 'why'.
I told them of Zeno's Paradox of the Tortoise and Achilles. How because of infinity Achilles can never pass the Tortoise. Obviously in reality all he has to do is pass the Tortoise. But with infinity in mind, it should be impossible.
So it proves the flaw of infinity. The proof of infinity is easy, all you have to do is divide 1 by 3. Or 10 by 3. Or however you choose. The calculator will either say Er, or display 3.333333333333333 and if it had the space it would go on for infinity.
Then Chris said something in a sentence he was putting forward. Halfway through he said, ".....,your mind is only good for certain things,.......".
Obviously I thought that was crap, it is by my mind that I comprehend everything. It and all it creates and decides and sees is what is.
Then I realised that it was completely true.
Our logical mind. That is to say, that which we work things out with, not the creative part ect. But the Logical part, the bit that dissects arguments and counters information with facts and makes rational judgement, is a calculator.
This is obvious.
A calculator cannot cut a cake into three equal pieces.
Because of 3.33333 recurring it will never find the place to put the knife.
In that sense, you cannot work out where to cut a cake. The logical mind is doomed to go into overload, its like using tea to make coffee. To cut the cake you must realise that the logical part of your mind will never cut the cake into 3 equal parts, nor is it logically possible to. You have to just cut the cake on creativity and/or faith.
Therefore the brain can never know the spirit, can never know God, or existence. If they exist or if they don't exist is a futile movement of the brain because what we are trying to look for is what is outside that box, outside that box, outside that box, why, but why, but why.
If we try to think about why, we will always eventually end up stuck thinking you cant pass the Tortoise or cut the cake.
So thinking about if and why God exists or the point in life exists is a matter the brain is not capable of knowing because of 3.3333 recurring.
Anyway that doesn't clear up all the questions but it leads me to feel the answer cannot be thought or logical.
Pretty eventful day huh.
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