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Sifu Wong wrote about the chi kung in China today -
Traditional Shaolin Kungfu and high level chi kung are very rare in China today. Some of the best kungfu and chi kung masters in the world are still found in China, but they are the rare exception. What is widely taught in public is modernized wushu and low level chi kung which often degrades into gentle exercise.
If you are interested in modernized wushu and such skills like having a granite slap broken on your chest or bending some spears against your throat, you can readily learn them in China today. Interestingly, past masters did not consider such skills high level chi kung; they called them "da li xi" or "strong man show", frequently performed at roadsides by travelling hawkers who sold medical pills and medical plasters.
Modernized wushu and such skills are taught in wushu schools, not in temples. You can find many such schools around the Shaolin Temple in Henan, where you may register on the spot. You can graduate in a few months, often with a certificate. You can also stay as long and learn as much as you like. Of course you have to pay the required fees.
But that may or may not be fulfilling your interest in enhancing your chi kung and kungfu skills, or your ambition of learning as many internal arts as you would be allowed to. Much depends on your interpretation of "chi kung", "kungfu" and "internal arts". Having a slap of granite broken on your chest, for example, is external. You need not have to practise chi kung to accomplish the feat.
Moreover, it is not necessarily wise to learn as much chi kung, kungfu and internal arts as you can. You would only end up as a learner, and may not even be healthy and fit, or know how to defend yourself. It would be wiser to learn from the best available master you can find, in or outside a temple, and practise, practise, practise -- not learn, learn, learn -- what he has taught you.
Traditional Shaolin Kungfu and high level chi kung are very rare in China today. Some of the best kungfu and chi kung masters in the world are still found in China, but they are the rare exception.Phil
Hi! PhilH I wonder if this meant that if we take all the best or very good Chi kung and Kung Fu Masters of the World, the best of the best of all them live in China?
For my self I feel that I don't know about Kung Fu but Chi Kung Masters and Immortals of the Dragon Gate ( that are enlightened too) are the highest most powerful Chi Kung Great Grand Masters that have ever existed! Take just the little example, that they have call Tiger Roar, that can destroy all your organs if you hear it or even kill you etc!
Greetings . Yes, Zhineng Qigong is some of the really best Qigong around today. I remember Sifu Wong speaking very highly of Grandmaster Pang in his QA series. I remember in one, Master Wong mentions that he believes Zhineng Qigong (different from the other Zhi Neng Qigong in China, and more commonly known by Chilel Qigong in America) was invented based on Shaolin Cosmos Qigong. I read several accounts of European television shows recording with camera the vanishing of tumors in patients while a Western Medical Doctor observed as well. The students of Dr. Pang were able to make the cancer disappear on camera, as everyone there looks on, doing there Qigong Therapy technique emitting qi into the patient!
Aaron
"The nine energies are necessary for immortality, but they are not something for any person to be allowed to come in contact with or hear about. The populus common, in their unending worry, their concern is only with riches and honors. They may well be called walking corpses." - Ge Hong
Zhineng qigong of Pang Heming has nothing to do with Shaolin Cosmos Qigong.
The precursor to Zhening qigong was Hexiangzhuang. In one of ultrasound reading, it was seen that qi application was able to dissolve solid tumours in real time.
That's so cool. Shrinking a tumor over the span of a week would be great, but shrinking it so fast that you can actually see it! Wow. And people think dispersing clouds sounds crazy. Seems to me that dispersing clouds would be much easier than dispersing tumors. Anyone have any information on these studies? Are they available in English?
The students of Dr. Pang were able to make the cancer disappear on camera, as everyone there looks on, doing there Qigong Therapy technique emitting qi into the patient!
Wow! Now that is crazy.
They could easily win the One Million Dollar Randi Challenge (a scam?). But, then again, Randi's sole purpose is to eliminate all 'paranormal' phenomena as well as its practitioners in the Western World. So theres really no point in entering.
I was wondering, do they cure asthmatics as quickly as the cancer patient mentioned above, and do they also provide healing services?
I couldn't find the articles I read about some other cases of ChiLel practitioners at the Hospital doing the qi treatment, but here are some more links for information on Chilel Qigong.
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This page mentions the tumour dispersing taping. I couldn't find much more information immediately on the studies, but their webpage has a Forum and further contact information where I'm sure they can be asked for more information.
Yes, I'm sure they provide healing services, as the article mentions this. But of course those interested would have to contact them for details.
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"The nine energies are necessary for immortality, but they are not something for any person to be allowed to come in contact with or hear about. The populus common, in their unending worry, their concern is only with riches and honors. They may well be called walking corpses." - Ge Hong
Randi is such a fraud. Does he not see the irony? He says that Mr. Kolodzey's claim is unreasonable, and yet it is Randi that is being totally unreasonable. After all, the Randi Challenge claims to offer $1 Million to anyone who can prove that they have a paranormal ability. Apparently, this only refers to paranormal powers that James Randi considers reasonable.
What a sham. Now do you folks see why Sifu Wong isn't interested in these "tests"? The Randi Challenge is not scientific or objective. It revolves around the whims and biases of James Randi, the world's most famous skeptic. As I said in another thread, Randi is not going to let anyone win his million bucks, even if they teleport into his office.
He won't even believe "for one moment" that Mr. Kolodzey can do as he claims. Meanwhile, Mr. Kolodzey is not the only one in the world with his ability. What he describes is known in Chinese as "Bi Gu". Sifu Wong did a Bi Gu experiment years ago. I've heard of Gurus in India who go years without eating, and I've read about Taoist Immortals in Viet Nam who don't even need to drink water!
Thanks for the links, Tapio. And thank you also, Aaron. Very interesting stuff.
Zhineng qigong used to have a training programme with corresponding hospital complex that treated many diseases but due to the falungong crisis, many just shut down or moved to Singapore or Malaysia.
There was a 30 day programme, 6 months and 2 year sequence of training but not much is profiled or advertised so I do not know the present outcome.
The studies lack much scientific criteria and they end up with being testimonials without any reference of prior therapy or intervention, drugs taken and gives people the erroneous belief they only need qigong to cure themselves.
gives people the erroneous belief they only need qigong to cure themselves.
Why is that belief erroneous? I admit that it's often wise to use multiple modalities, but sometimes, chi kung is all they need. And sometimes, chi kung is their only hope.
Many testimonials pertaining to qigong fail to mention what the subject did before they tried qigong and that to me is suspect. The script is always the same leading me to believe that this is purposefully done, in most cases.
Chronic diseases (diseases of civilization) need followup and the 'eyeball test' of central obesity, big belly syndrome, etc needs allopathic documentation of the degree of the problem verified either by xray, ultrasound or blood chemistry.
I will put it this way by saying the qigong person who claims to cure diabetes (type II) or hypertension just by using qigong will be rich and famous but where are they? I would like to see more millionaires in this world!
I will put it this way by saying the qigong person who claims to cure diabetes (type II) or hypertension just by using qigong will be rich and famous but where are they?
Sifu Wong has many students who have cured themselves of diabetes (type II) and hypertension using only qigong.
Yeniseri, I find your logic flawed. Your conclusion does not follow, i.e. if qigong can cure these things, then someone would be rich and famous. What does being rich and famous have to do with anything? In mathematical terms (which is what logic is based on), this would be the same as saying: if a = b, then c = d.
That kind of logic doesn't make any sense to me. Unfortunately, it is frequently used. People say the same thing about the Randi Challenge, i.e. "if paranormal powers existed, then they would win $1 Million!"
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