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  • I wonder what would happen if Shaolin students did what Kevin did. He has already been rejected from the course. Would the students get a little private "meeting" to set them straight? Kick them out? Meh, oh well.

    Conversing about any of my posts is flogging a dead horse. Lets get back to the topic at hand.

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    • How can we get back to the topic when you can't even have a discussion?

      Did you answer my question yet? Yes or no will do.
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      • Baguamonk1,

        You have been asked a very simple question by Sifu Anthony, yet you still seem unable to answer it? I for one am very keen to read your reply and I'm sure it will also prove very interesting to other forum members.

        Still waiting...

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        Marcus
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        • Which question?

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          • Originally posted by Antonius View Post
            Please answer the following question with a simple yes or no answer: Prior to coming to our forum, did you post negative comments about Shaolin Wahnam and Sifu Wong on other forums?
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            • Oh wow, I don't know why I didn't see that. It must be from the thread aimed at me? I haven't touched it since my lost post, I already said I was flogging a dead horse and I said enough rude things to bring the calvary

              As for the question, yes I believe so. To me it wasn't purposefully slandering/libel, but rather sharing different opinions with other people. I can't recall because there have been many discussions on different places about wahnam. But I can say after conversing with you guys that I apologize if you guys were hurt or felt disrespected. Regardless of the hostility towards me and other outsiders, I have more respect for you guys than I did before I conversed with many. So lets say those opinions are "old."

              Prove very interesting to other forum members eh? I see what you guys are trying to do, oh well I will do anything to help rally more support! Jump on the bandwagon (if you haven't already), its what all the cool kids are doing
              Last edited by Baguamonk1; 7 October 2006, 12:03 PM.

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              • When I was reading your last post, Baguamonk1, I was actually very happy to see your apology. Then I was surprised to see you negate it in the next sentence. Why do you constantly contradict yourself? Mind you, you are making it easier now by doing it in a couple of lines

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                • I'm not negating it, well regardless of how you guys take it, I still apologize.

                  Its ok to jump the bandwagon Does nothing for me, and thats ok.

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                  • Have you posted a picture of yourself somewhere yet? Or are you still hoping from thread to thread and avoiding the subject. We would like to see who we're talking to. Is that so unreasonable?
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                    • Originally posted by yeniseri View Post
                      Anyway,
                      Tai chi fighting has never existed and never will. !
                      I might be misunderstanding your meaning there - and I quite liked a lotof other stuff that you have said - but people really do fight with Taiji - the Chen family have had many challenges - even in modern times.

                      I'mnot sure what peole mean by *traditional* Taiji. If I invent a taiji style now, is it traditional in a hundred years? See what I mean?

                      The oldest is Chen style - as far as I know - and to my mind, truly the best. However, form is only one aspect - it is the feeling and practice that matters, in my view.

                      As for grappling and boxing - taiji is a very grappling based art - and by grappling I mean not wrestling on the floor, but grabbing, locking, throwing - kind of, people puttheir hands on you, pushing and pulling kind of grappling.

                      As for Dan Docherty - I am not sure that what he says can be taken seriously after the things he says about the Chen family. I don't believe that on his best day and their worst that he could defeat them.

                      As for Yang style masters, in his day, Wang Xiang Zhai defeated all of the top Yang family masters - all of whom were his personal friends - and he criticised their methods forleading away from true essence. The reference for thatis Wang's interviews and writings at the time - such as interviews in the Beijing Times. Some elements of Yang style were added in to Yiquan.


                      I must say, that although I am not the greatest of fans of taiji, there really are very great masters of taiji - the Chen family, and their students, and the students of other people are real people - not legends! Chen Xiao Wang and Chen Zheng Lei - especially beautiful taiji - and they're serious martial artists.

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                      Last edited by Xia; 16 December 2006, 03:33 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by Antonius View Post
                        I think that Yeniseri is talking about "Yi" as opposed to "Qi." The taijiquan classics don't talk much about qi, at least not directly. Instead, they talk about yi.

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                        This, in my opinion, is a very important point. *Yi* is mind - mindfulness... All of the talk about qi tends to make people focus on something superstitious - like you're waiting for a super power to be put in you, lol.

                        When many people spar, they tend to disembody a bit - like, they're watching as it happens to them. That's one of themost common aspects of fighting that peopel have a problem with. The solution is to train to be moreintegrated between mind and body - not in any mystical way, just in actual, deliberate way - being mindful - beginning with training, as you do the techniques, really uniting mind with the action, being very mindful - engaging *yi* - mind - like, if you are doing basic actions, you don't disengage mind, you make it very *active* - but not in a thinking about sunday dinner sort of way, in a *cracklling* way, like it's totally focussed and running through every movement -like you can feel the feeling in every part of you.

                        From that kind of training, try to keep it standing meditation, basic exercise, in push hands, then light sparring - then harder sparring and fighting. When the real fight comes, you hopefully have trained not to disconnect - which is the feeling that causes everything to stop working, even though you have trained for years - most of us have experienced that feeling, and know that it is true. It is possible, and much easier than generally appointed, in my experience, to train sp that that does not happen. *Yiquan* is based very much on that whole principle.

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                        • Yi and Chi

                          Hello all,

                          so far I know from Masters of Taiji is Yi the active (yang) part of Shen.

                          So in my interpretions means that Yi (Yang Part of Shen) is leading the Chi.

                          There is also something who is leading the Chi, Yi without Chi means no action.

                          Who can bring light into the or my theory ?
                          May all beings be happy

                          Kai
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