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  • #16
    Hi Alex,

    I know that. I only wanted to explain that actually I am a "newcomer" to Chi Kung, but not to spiritual and mental matters: in fact I am concerned with this for many years. Therefore I know very well that any doing against a master's advice doesn't make sense and could easily be harmful. - That's exactly why I asked my question to present healers.

    Thanks for all!
    my regards,
    confermezza
    ... alles, alles, alles ist doch auf Liebe aufgebaut ..." (Ellen Auerbach, 1997)

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    • #17
      Hi everyone,
      Recently I took a Induced Chi Flow Course with Sifu Piti here at Bogotá. I understand you can generate chi flow when combining three hands, such as butterfly, the bear, and fairys.... also when combining lifting the sky, carrying the moon and pushing mountains...

      But...

      What about if you just do Lifting the Sky and Carrying the Moon?

      Is it still induced chi flow?
      Does this combination create something special?

      Regards,
      Dani

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Daniel Jimenez View Post
        What about if you just do Lifting the Sky and Carrying the Moon?

        Is it still induced chi flow?
        Yes, although there may be subtle differences in the result which may or may not be relevant depending on your aims and objectives.

        It is also generally a good idea to practice the way you are taught.


        Best wishes,
        George / Юра
        Shaolin Wahnam England

        gate gate pāragate pārasaṁgate bodhi svāhā

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        • #19
          Hi George, thanks for the advice.

          If any Sifu would like to make comment I will be glad about it.

          Then... George's statement: "It is also generally a good idea to practice the way you are taught" brings up a different question :
          Where are the boundaries of what you were taught and learning throughout experiencing? How does the "freedom of experiencing" apply here? If you still relax, smile from the heart, generate a good chi flow...

          Dani

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          • #20
            The last few times I've burned a finger or two in my kitchen escapades I have immediately stepped back, relaxed and sent chi to the point, and within seconds the pain goes away. And most usefully there are no blisters developing afterwards. This was quite surprising and interesting on one occasion as it was a quite hefty burn to my thumb.

            No visualisation, just relaxing, smiling from the heart and letting go. Had I not consciously sent chi to the burn the same result would happen if I had a chi flow, but since having a chi flow in the kitchen while cooking is not a very good idea at all, I sent chi there instead.

            I would have the same result since chi flows naturally where it is needed most, without conscious guidance. So unless specific reasons, not doing anything beyond initiate the chi flow as taught is the best treatment, be it ears or fingers
            When one door closes, another one opens.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Daniel Jimenez View Post
              Where are the boundaries of what you were taught and learning throughout experiencing? How does the "freedom of experiencing" apply here?
              You are free to experience and enjoy whatever you experience (without intellectualising about it too much).

              The boundaries are respectfully practicing as you were instructed to do, in the manner that you were instructed to do.


              Best wishes,
              George / Юра
              Shaolin Wahnam England

              gate gate pāragate pārasaṁgate bodhi svāhā

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              • #22
                Originally posted by confermezza View Post
                Now my question to our Chi Kung Healers:
                Years ago, I suffered hearing loss (Hoersturz in German) many times, that caused hardness of hearing on both ears. (The reason was tension in the cervical spine, because of mental stress, I found out much later.)

                Naturally, I would love to cure this with Chi Kung. When practicing I visualize Chi flowing to the ears, opening them.
                Is it advisable too to put my hands near the ears to get Chi into them? or could this even cause a blockage?

                What do you think?

                Thanks - and regards,
                confermezza
                Since I must tread lightly here due to my differing point of view, I would like to say the following.
                It sounds like a good idea based on your intuition.
                I would recommend baduanjin as a precursor exercise only because it works on the 8 extraordinary meridians. When finished with it, do basic shougong (ending routine) encompassing neck and head area massage and tapping (pai da)

                To end, place both hands on ears tapping fengchi area (I do not want to use point so the general area is fine) about 25-50x (I do not know the exact amount so that is good start. Then bend ears with yuji (meaty prominent area in line with thumb) for about 2-3 minutes. Relax for x time period and continue wth your normal tasks.

                There may be some benefit but if you have x% hearing loss (based on allopathic diagnosis) there is no way to reverse it. If the medical practitioner made an error (without your knowledge) and your strategy works then be thankful you were able to better your condition. Your ears may be more sensitive or you may catch certain cues that will definately help with hearing so the awareness quotient is high enough for self health.

                Let there be no compulsion. If my differing view is absurd to your status quo then treat it for what it is and act accordingly!
                God speed!

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                • #23
                  So "teaching" chi kung over a internet forum are a better cause of action then the skills she has already learned from her Sifu in person?

                  Why does it sound like a good idea? It's going directly against the advice given.

                  Threading lightly indeed
                  When one door closes, another one opens.

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                  • #24
                    For any lurkers on this thread, don't listen to Yeniseri. Do listen to Sifu and our instructors.
                    "Take a moment to feel how wonderful it feels just to be alive."
                    - Sifu

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                    • #25
                      Hi brothers, hi yeniseri,

                      well, my posting is about two years old ... and since then I am practicing Shaolin Wahnam Chi Kung - and nothing else. I wouldn't try this and that – and I wouldn't listen to the advices of someone who states that cancer can't be healed by Cosmos Chi Kung ...

                      By now I didn't follow my ear problems (I am not deaf, though ), but I am consistently practicing Chi Kung. By now my back pains (which I had for years) are gone - and I am getting rid more and more of some deep emotions (grief, anxiety) ... and this is the really important thing to me by now.
                      Other problems will follow.
                      I feel really happy!

                      Confidence and good Chi flow,
                      confermezza
                      ... alles, alles, alles ist doch auf Liebe aufgebaut ..." (Ellen Auerbach, 1997)

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                      • #26
                        confermezza,

                        I may be too narrow in assigning one location/ area so my suggestion is to broaden to fengfu, fengchi, yaman and dazui. You can check any resource to find these area. I want to re-iterate that I did not invent these points!

                        Part of (neo) Daoist/Buddhist yangsheggong and classical chinese medicine (?) is that the ears present the kidney's problems. Not physical kidney per modern anatomy but an original source though there is some level they share energies (I am ignorant so I am unable to explain). Test and research yourself!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by yeniseri View Post
                          There may be some benefit but if you have x% hearing loss (based on allopathic diagnosis) there is no way to reverse it.
                          According to you. Only according to you. Please do not make authorative statements, especially when advices from Chi Kung healers are seeked here.

                          Last year I treated one of my students who had hear loss and tinitus for the last 4 years. The first vertebrae was slightly misplaced, and I put it back in place. Result? 4 years of ear problems cured in a few minutes.

                          I do not say that it is always that 'easy' (even when you know how to do it -- it can be a difficult condition to treat), but sometimes there are some very good surprises.

                          Maxime Citerne, Chinese Medicine, Qigong Healing & Internal Arts

                          Frankfurt - Paris - Alsace


                          France: www.institut-anicca.com

                          Germany: www.anicca-institute.com

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                          • #28
                            Yeniseri,

                            I would strongly advice you to read Sifu's book "The Complete Book of Chinese Medicine". I did - though English is not my mothertongue. And for sure I will re-read chapters, as I do with other books by Sifu.
                            You will read there a lot about the connections between organs and meridians.
                            Therefore I am practicing Carrying Moon and Nourishing kidneys.

                            And, if you were educated in so many aspects ... how could you ever state that cancer cannot be cured by Chi Kung?!

                            Best wishes,
                            confermezza
                            ... alles, alles, alles ist doch auf Liebe aufgebaut ..." (Ellen Auerbach, 1997)

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                            • #29
                              Thank you sir!
                              The great master is You.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Maxime View Post
                                According to you. Only according to you. Please do not make authorative statements, especially when advices from Chi Kung healers are seeked here.

                                Last year I treated one of my students who had hear loss and tinitus for the last 4 years. The first vertebrae was slightly misplaced, and I put it back in place. Result? 4 years of ear problems cured in a few minutes.

                                I do not say that it is always that 'easy' (even when you know how to do it -- it can be a difficult condition to treat), but sometimes there are some very good surprises.
                                My statements are never authorative!
                                My statement as above was in response to a question. As adults, if someone believes it has truth, they weigh it with what they were taught and act accordingly. I cannot command my own dog and you suggest and imply I have some authority here! This is utterly absurd.

                                I never cajole, force or otherwise bribe individuals to do what I may suggest!

                                NOTE:
                                For anyone who believes in their heart that hearing can be reversed regardless of the medical diagnosis, contact your nearest Shaolin Wahnam representative.
                                Despite my skepticism, true healing should always be researched and consulted as put forth by these truths.
                                Last edited by yeniseri; 13 August 2011, 08:28 PM.

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