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  • #2
    Originally posted by HugoDarien
    Which book is best or should I chose of the various books that exist today about The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine?
    I suggest the following translation:

    Huang Di Nei Jing Su Wen - Nature, Knowledge, Imagery in an Ancient Chinese Medical Text, de Paul U. Unschuld, Paradigm Publications.

    Best,

    Maxime

    Maxime Citerne, Chinese Medicine, Qigong Healing & Internal Arts

    Frankfurt - Paris - Alsace


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    • #3
      The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine

      Good Day Maxime and God bless you for your help

      I am going to buy that book you tip-offs me very soon!

      Is the any relationship between this book and this one:


      I know that the book of The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine is sometimes in 2 books! Is all the 2 books in the book you tip-offs me?

      PS. Is this your favorite healing book? Do you have any others ones?

      /HugoDarien

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      • #4
        Hello Hugo

        The book I mentionned only present the first part, i.e Su Wen. You will have to purchase another version for the second part, i.e the Ling Shu.

        The link you pasted is the Nan Ching, another great classic.

        I have many books on Chinese Medicine, but most of those I am working on are either in French, either quite specialized and not appropriate for fresh beginners (I suppose you are, please correct me if I am wrong Hugo ).

        All the Classics are quite difficult to read, for various reasons, and it is better to have a thorough understanding of Chinese Medicine before going in depth in their study.

        Best,

        Maxime

        Maxime Citerne, Chinese Medicine, Qigong Healing & Internal Arts

        Frankfurt - Paris - Alsace


        France: www.institut-anicca.com

        Germany: www.anicca-institute.com

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        • #5
          The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine

          Originally posted by Maxime View Post
          Hello Hugo

          The book I mentionned only present the first part, i.e Su Wen. You will have to purchase another version for the second part, i.e the Ling Shu.

          Do the first part ( Su Wen) talk more about healing

          Becuase I am intresting only in healing

          Thanks

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          • #6
            Hugo,

            healing can take many, many forms. In other words, there are many systems (Western medicine, Chinese medicine, Tibetan medicine, Reiki, etc...). It is best to stick to one system and work diligently with it, understanding its principles, its applications, etc...

            If you are interested by the Chinese medical paradigm, then you should first study its essentials.

            Start from scratch.

            I don't think reading the classics will bring you much benefits here, maybe it could only create confusion. Besides, it is crucial that you find a school with good teachers. You can read as many books (even good ones) as you like on Chinese medicine, it won't replace live instructions and practice. Believe me.

            I suggest that you start to search some good teachers in your country. Meanwhile, I suggest that you read general books on Chinese medicine, in order to prepare for your study; it will be very beneficial to have studied some books -- even before learning from real teachers (but this step is crucial).

            I suggest the following books:

            - The Complete Book of Chinese Medicine, by my Sifu (Sifu Wong Kiew Kit)
            - The Web That Has No Weaver : Understanding Chinese Medicine by Ted J. Kaptchuk

            Please note that I have not read the book by Kaptchuk, but it is usually given as a good start for beginners.

            Best,

            Maxime

            PS: To answer your question, both parts of the Nei Jing 'talk' about healing.
            Last edited by Maxime; 21 August 2006, 11:35 AM.

            Maxime Citerne, Chinese Medicine, Qigong Healing & Internal Arts

            Frankfurt - Paris - Alsace


            France: www.institut-anicca.com

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            • #7
              The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine

              Originally posted by Maxime View Post

              I suggest the following books:

              - The Complete Book of Chinese Medicine, by my Sifu (Sifu Wong Kiew Kit)
              - The Web That Has No Weaver : Understanding Chinese Medicine by Ted J. Kaptchuk

              Please note that I have not read the book by Kaptchuk, but it is usually given as a good start for beginners.

              Best,

              Maxime
              You are a good help my friend Maxime, in fact very much good help!

              I have read The Complete Book of Chinese Medicine, by my Sifu (Sifu Wong Kiew Kit) in fact right now I am in the library and have the book in my hand, a book that I give it to the library so I have read it like 3 times already, I have then little understanding about Chinese medicine after reading this wonderful book by Sifu: Wong!

              Any way I can borrow and read the 2 books of Paul U. Unschuld !( Su Wen and the Nan Ching)

              Would that be a good Idea?

              Any way I am going to borrow: The Web That Has No Weaver : Understanding Chinese Medicine by Ted J. Kaptchuk

              I belive in my life I stick more to Sifu Wong Kiew Kit teachings like Chi Kung and Shaolin Kung Fu and in some kind of way I become in the healing art! A heart to heart transmission! A start from scratch!

              But I feel is interesting any way in read such kind of things that we have discuses, but I wait to your suggestions, that I belive in and are very good start

              Good evening( I heard the thunderstorm right now, very cool)

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              • #8
                The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine

                Originally posted by HugoDarien View Post
                Any way I can borrow and read the 2 books of Paul U. Unschuld !( Su Wen and the Nan Ching)Would that be a good Idea?
                Any way I am going to borrow: The Web That Has No Weaver : Understanding Chinese Medicine by Ted J. Kaptchuk
                Well I don't interesting any more in reading those books!

                I rather stick to train Chi Kung and Kung Fu whit Sifu wong Kiew Kit, and if I want to learn Healing i want better learn it from Sifu Wong Kiew Kit, in the future I hope, but any way I am satisfied already whit the Chi Kung and Shaolin Kung fu of Sifu: Wong Kiew Kit

                Regards

                PS. thanks Maxime for your help!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HugoDarien View Post
                  PS. thanks Maxime for your help!
                  You are welcome Hugo, and I wish you good luck and success in your path.

                  Kind regards,

                  Maxime

                  Maxime Citerne, Chinese Medicine, Qigong Healing & Internal Arts

                  Frankfurt - Paris - Alsace


                  France: www.institut-anicca.com

                  Germany: www.anicca-institute.com

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                  • #10
                    The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine

                    Originally posted by Maxime View Post
                    You are welcome Hugo, and I wish you good luck and success in your path.

                    Kind regards,

                    Maxime
                    Your words are like fruits to my heart! Thank you Maxime for those good words!

                    My salute

                    /Hugo

                    Ps. And I wish you the same!

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                    • #11
                      The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine

                      Hello!

                      Originally posted by Maxime View Post
                      You can read as many books (even good ones) as you like on Chinese medicine, it won't replace live instructions and practice. Believe me.
                      I belive you Maxime! And thanks for your words!

                      Good-bye!

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                      • #12
                        The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine

                        Hi

                        I wonder if you can tell me, the years that the human body are divided according this book(The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine)

                        I mean I read long time ago that the male every 9 years I belive and female every 7 years do happen something in their body!

                        So if some one can write that I would be very happy!

                        That is all I want to know in the Yellow Emperor book, so if it is right to write that in this forum, I would then really appreciate that!

                        Thanks

                        HugoDarien

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                        • #13
                          The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine

                          Originally posted by HugoDarien View Post
                          I wonder if you can tell me, the years that the human body are divided according this book(The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine)
                          I mean I read long time ago that the male every 9 years I belive and female every 7 years do happen something in their body! So if some one can write that I would be very happy!
                          Of course we must respect this forum law: You will not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by the Shaolin Wahnam Institute. So I was thinking if you could used not the really original words of the book! But well if I read it latter maybe I write down some similar words!

                          Regards

                          Hugo

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                          • #14
                            The Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine

                            Originally posted by Maxime View Post
                            Hello Hugo

                            The book I mentionned only present the first part, i.e Su Wen. You will have to purchase another version for the second part, i.e the Ling Shu.Maxime

                            The link you pasted is the Nan Ching, another great classic.
                            Sihing yes I know that after reading in this homepage:http://www.daoiststudies.org/review.unschuld.php

                            Now I wonder if the Nan Ching are a part of the Huangdi neijing

                            Sihing do you know if the are another volumes today of the proposed seven-volume series on the Suwen By Paul U. Unschuld? or is only volume 1 (HUANG DI NEI JING SU WEN: NATURE, KNOWLEDGE, IMAGERY IN AN ANCIENT CHINESE MEDICAL TEXT. By Paul U. Unschuld) the only Volume available to buy today of the seven volumes

                            Originally posted by Maxime View Post
                            ...All the Classics are quite difficult to read, for various reasons, and it is better to have a thorough understanding of Chinese Medicine before going in depth in their study.

                            Best,

                            Maxime
                            Well I have read the The Complete Book of Chinese Medicine by Sifu and I belive I am ready to read those books(still don't know if I should read them) It maybe could be a interesting read time just for fun or better for read something different?

                            Sihing I wonder if this book:http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...m/compricer-20

                            are the same as this book:



                            I mean is not so much expensive as Paul U. Unschuld book! I wonder why?

                            Have this book: http://www.amazon.com/Systematic-Cla...741510-7383103 anything to do whit the Huangdi neijing

                            Well regards

                            Hugo

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                            • #15
                              Hello Hugo,

                              good to see you searching among the classics again
                              Originally posted by HugoDarien View Post
                              Now I wonder if the Nan Ching are a part of the Huangdi neijing
                              No, it is not. It is another classic.
                              do you know if the are another volumes today of the proposed seven-volume series on the Suwen By Paul U. Unschuld? or is only volume 1 (HUANG DI NEI JING SU WEN: NATURE, KNOWLEDGE, IMAGERY IN AN ANCIENT CHINESE MEDICAL TEXT. By Paul U. Unschuld) the only Volume available to buy today of the seven volumes
                              Sorry I do not know.

                              Well I have read the The Complete Book of Chinese Medicine by Sifu and I belive I am ready to read those books(still don't know if I should read them) It maybe could be a interesting read time just for fun or better for read something different?
                              If you want to read them just for fun, then simply have some fun reading them . Maybe you will discover yourself a real passion for Chinese Medicine then.

                              On the other hand, those classics are quite difficult to understand if one has not a good understanding of CM, its fundamental theories. In other words, those are books for advanced students.

                              Yes and no.
                              It is the same book, but not the same translator. When it comes to CM classics, I could even say that those are not the same, simply because the quality of translation is of the utmost importance, and it is likely that we have two different translations here; the question is 'is there a great difference between them?'.

                              I mean is not so much expensive as Paul U. Unschuld book! I wonder why?
                              Maybe because the Unschuld version is better (I am not sure on that one).

                              Have this book: http://www.amazon.com/Systematic-Cla...741510-7383103 anything to do whit the Huangdi neijing
                              No, this is another (great) classic written in 259 by the famous physician Huang Fu Mi. It is called the Zhen Jiu Jia Yi Jing. It is specialised on meridian, points and acupuncture in general. This is also a book for advanced students. Nevertheless, this classic uses many references from the Ling Shu (the second part of the Nei Jing) and goes further in their analysis.

                              Hope that it helps you Hugo

                              Kind regards,

                              Maxime
                              Last edited by Maxime; 5 December 2006, 07:21 PM.

                              Maxime Citerne, Chinese Medicine, Qigong Healing & Internal Arts

                              Frankfurt - Paris - Alsace


                              France: www.institut-anicca.com

                              Germany: www.anicca-institute.com

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