A Secret

[cosmic dancer]

Whats wrong with a mystery, nothing.

Unless you yourself were going to start regular worship and life dedication to the stone if were true as you are all so eager to find out and let everyone else know while spoiling the flow of the thread, then there is no point in sounding off, I was enjoying this so please let the story continue.

Dr Loo, would you mind telling us more on Jesus/Issa, I am very interested in his history and am myself trying to understand origins of Christianity so I can solidify my understanding and faith......thankyou.

Awaits next installment...

[Nick Jones]

Dear piers,

Great Post!! Now for some digging..

All accounts are subjective' you wrote, 'therefore any account of events is going to be fictional to someone'. What are you saying?

Exactly that. A reasonable example is that of the factual accounts on the forum of experiences with internal force. There are videos documenting examples and there is even an opportunity for worthy people to experience it themselves with a money back guarantee! However, despite this compelling evidence, to some it remains purely fiction. Perhaps using the word 'all' was a little sweeping, yet surely even the simplest account has a myriad of different truths within it.

It's like saying it's irrelevant whether the testimonies on this site are true or not, they're just good stories which you can enjoy whether or not they're factually accurate in every detail.

I don’t think it is. Dr Loo's story is not presented as a testimonial, rather for entertainment purposes. Surely you can see this is clear from his first post, cant you? I agree that Sigungs claims are a better example, again though; I strongly believe Sigung didn’t make such claims merely to entertain people.

I think if you discovered that all the testimonies on this forum about people's healings and cures from chi kung were all made up, you'd be shocked and disappointed.

Yes I think I would be surprised, partially because I wrote one of them and as you say I have my own direct experience to suggest their validity. Disappointed? Again yes, mostly though, for the people who wrote them as it wouldn't change benefits that I have received.

it doesn't matter to you whether it's true or false because you think it's false

Actually I think it's possible, but improbable. I did suspend any disbelief whilst Dr Loo was posting his account, indeed actively invited his account and as I mentioned previously I will try and believe such an account until its proven false, either through evidence presented by others or my own direct experience. Some may think this is naive or foolish, yet I wouldn’t be practising genuine Kung Fu if I had demanded the claims were proven to me before I began to practice it. As did many here I took what was claimed at face value and tried it for myself. Why then didn't I do try and test Dr Loo's story in a similar manner?

Because it doesn't matter to me whether it’s true or false.

I might be being presumptuous – you might not think that, you might indeed think the stone may be the key to your destiny unless proved otherwise.

You're right, I do believe it has little relevence to my life because lets face it, he wouldn't be the only person in the world with such an object. It could quite reasonably be argued that most of the developed countries in the world and many multinational corporations are in possession of objects that could be considered the key to our destinies. Masses of funds, armed forces, nuclear weapons, a patent on a life saving drug… Even a sheep could be the key to everyone's destinies (think Dolly) or so we've been told. I have seen my destiny (thank you Sigung) and its not locked. It is a way away however and it may take many lifetimes to reach, but it will always be there for me when I am ready.

My posts here were intended to counter balance the posts of people who had made it a personal crusade to prove the story false, with the pretext of charitably saving us 'poor gullible fools' who were enjoying it. I think spending lots of effort trying to disprove the story suggests that you must consider it at least a bit believable and reasonably important or why spend the effort? If I presented an account of a trip to Pluto with my pet talking monkey named Alfred, and claimed I had the brie of destiny to rule all, who would bother researching contra evidence to my claims?

No one.

Because no one could envision anyone else believing it. So those who are claiming to help us by disproving his story, probably consider it more important than those who were simply being entertained by it.

Oh, and by the way, I'm finding this thread entertaining whether or not it's true, in fact I'm finding it even more entertaining because of the plagiarisms.

Likewise!

I agree that Dr Loo has presented this material as fact and that this is now questionable, it was presented to entertain and I firmly believe it has done that very successfully. atat23 made a point about the actual story being only about 10 posts long. I think rather than just being the author, Dr Loo has become the central character, and the narrative is not just about the secret but the authenticity of the secret, and how people react to such extravagant claims.

Kindest Regards
Nick.

[atat23]

My posts here were intended to counter balance the posts of people who had made it a personal crusade to prove the story false, with the pretext of charitably saving us 'poor gullible fools' who were enjoying it. I think spending lots of effort trying to disprove the story suggests that you must consider it at least a bit believable and reasonably important or why spend the effort?

since im one of the people you probably think is on a personal crusade i would just like to say that i couldnt care who believes the story i just couldnt believe there were people who seemed to be taking it on with so little evidence, in alot of my early posts i was merely asking DL directly for more evidence as there was none to back up what he was saying but alas he gave us no more, my posts to point out the inconsistencies of the story have been referred to as circumstantial evidence but i considered them quite strong since many people were taking what DL was saying on faith alone and its quite clear from some of the posts that there were some who believed even given the small amount of evidence, we all have our own view on the thread and my personal view is that DL was trying to see who would believe his story and he would say anthing to achieve this goal, so really i think he's a bit of a troll, i may be wrong but if thats the case its sad more than anything else but like it or lump it thats how i see things

if you see the story as true, my posts are there to point out some reasons why i dont think the story could be true and also how i believe DL has copied his material from a number of sources, if you take the story as just a story, say along the lines of the da vinci code then take my posts as pointing out minor plots holes and continuity errors. nicky said that we were all now aiding DL with his story, on consideration, maybe to some degree he is right although i dont agree with his wording, i dont see any posts as aiding the story, maybe adding (i.e making it better :P) would be a better word and giving people a different view that they hadnt been offered previously, what ever way you view the posts in the thread take the advice that has been given to me on the forum on many ocassions, if you dont like them you dont have to read them, the phrase ignorance is bliss comes to mind.

If I presented an account of a trip to Pluto with my pet talking monkey named Alfred, and claimed I had the brie of destiny to rule all, who would bother researching contra evidence to my claims?

depends on how you presented it, like DL you could of course present it as both, present it as a factual account but tell any sceptics to view it as fiction, slightly redundant since sceptics would be viewing it as fiction anyway but clever none the less as once it was disproved that you didnt go pluto with alfred you could turn around and use the argument that you also presented it as "just a story like harry potter" all along .....although your story actually sounds alot more plausible than this one, i think you should open another thread and tell us all about it, name it "the SECRET of pluto", avoid making the mistake of copying any info from other sources and you have a great story on your hands, just look at the attention such a simple story has gotten here, plus your's has a talking monkey.....i smell a sitcom

Ryan

[Piers]

Dear Nick... excellent! Nice post - like what you're saying.

I must say I love the sound of Alfred, your talking monkey. Please tell us more about him! I agree with Ryan. In fact I notice there's already a new thread called 'Monkey' - for one excited moment I thought the monkey sitcom had begun. I am a bit sceptical of the brie of destiny though.

piers

[8nsteen8]

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Atat23,

Here comes a response from me, better late than never

If you read the story from the start Dr. Frank Loo says that he is trying to learn more about the stone he has in his posession.

Dr. Frank Loo mention that he have found out that the stone is known as the Chintamani stone.

And in the next sentence he writes about the Chintamani stone and what is known about it.

Dr. Frank Loo knew that info about the Chintamani stones can be found on many sites on the internet. So if he would like to try to hide anything he would not have mentioned it and he would not have used others description of the stone.

I have yet to see someone telling a story (true or false) to post their sources along the way.

And a little reminder, which was the very first post from Dr. Loo

I have a secret which I want to share with members. It is a very long episode and I may need to write in parts. At this point I would like to stress that I am not inviting debates in any form or shape . For those who are sceptical for whatever the reasons maybe please read my episode as if they are reading Harry Potter

That i think gives some a hint why he stopped writing here, hopefully he will continue if everyone can respect this.

And by that i am done debating

/Niklas

[atat23]

meh, im pretty sure im repeating myself a bit here but since you raise a couple of points directed at me i guess its a necessary evil

Dr. Frank Loo mention that he have found out that the stone is known as the Chintamani stone.

pity he didnt tell us how he came to this conclusion or how he found out that the grail was actually the stone and that his stone was actually the Chintamani stone, not a great story if the plot doesnt even make sense, theres a major plot hole right there, everyone else was giving their flowery opinions on the matter, thats mine

And in the next sentence he writes about the Chintamani stone and what is known about it.

yup he does, thats an interesting technique right there actually, you say one thing is the same as another thing, without any proof to back it up, then you drown the weak minded reader with facts to convince them you couldnt possibly be lying as the -completely unrelated- facts dont lie, same kind of technique that is used with disinformation actually, a good was to mislead people and distort the facts, of course this is just a story but the point stands that there are a few major plot holes in the story so i cant see how yous guys love it so much when it is missing huge chunks of backstory.

Dr. Frank Loo knew that info about the Chintamani stones can be found on many sites on the internet. So if he would like to try to hide anything he would not have mentioned it and he would not have used others description of the stone.

he knew this did he?, your speaking for him now or did he tell you this? because i dont recall him ever claiming that he got the facts from a site......anyway i think we should let DL tell us what HE knew, what HE was thinking and what HIS reasoning was, probably best all round to let him speak for himself....no?

I have yet to see someone telling a story (true or false) to post their sources along the way.

yeah but im guessing that most stories you read have a start, a middle and an end, the stories i read do anyway, this story consists of a small unrelated start (holy grail story), a tangenty middle (the stone + photos) and we are still waiting for an end.
if someone's going to tell a story in parts why not divulge some of the sources especially since he was copying some of them word for word and when some of the readers directly asked him for those sources because they were interested in the facts the story was based on.
Also to repeat myself some more, DL could have just said at the start that some of his info was from different sites, by not stating this it seems likely he was trying to pass it for his own work, probably just an innocent blunder on his part (yeah right -_-; )


the thing we all know about the story is that it is completly subjective and we all have our own opinions on it, at the moment you seem to be repeating what everybody else has said 8nsteen8 as that harry potter quote has been used a ton of times to show that DL pretty much said from the start that you take the story however you want, we have established that i am taking it as fiction, others are taking it as a story made up to amuse, others are taking it as fact (from some of the threads i've seen), your comments are similar to those that have been directed at me in the past so if this post and my previous posts havent answered your questions i guess you'll never hear what im saying, alot of the "debating" just seems to involve rephrasing a previous post, at least the one that are directed at me seem to be, so this whole debate seems to just be going in circles and i dont think anything will be resolved untill DL posts again, which at this stage in the game is seeming more unlikely be the day.

the best thing here would be if we just agree to disagree as at this rate we are never going to change each others opinions on the matter, not on a forum anyway.

/Ryan

[celticdragon]

A Revelation

I think that the time has come to put an end to all the speculation about the 'Secret'!
There has been too much going backwards and forwards, and I have tried to guide you away from this dark path. It is time to reveal how I know that Dr. Loo is not the Keeper of The Stone.
WE ARE THE KEEPERS OF THE STONE….
…..and I have the picture that you so desperately desire to prove it. (Don’t be surprised if you get a feeling that you have met your destiny or that you are looking at something with awesome power not of this world)
Now, I am sure that all of your minds are now in absolute turmoil but don’t worry, I have been told by the council of keepers that it is safe for me to bring this information, that has been guarded for over 2000 years, to the special people of this forum.
There are so many questions running through your heads, I can feel the chaos. Just be calm!
I am part of an ancient celtic order that was entrusted with the stone and its secrets long before the celts set foot outside of mainland Europe. We have been monitoring the progress of this thread with dismay and feel that only good can come from revealing the truth after so many long centuries. This is not the first time that the forces of evil and their agents, usually masked by some massive corporate network, have tried to pass off some obvious ruse to gain and maintain influence and power. Don’t worry, we are here to protect you, and the best way to protect people is to make them aware!
The stone that you see is emblazoned with the image of the greatest of its guardians, and you can see the energy that emanates from it, so much so that it is not even necessary, nor possible, to even touch it.
It has been the subject of much conjecture and many people have tried to capture it for themselves, but to no avail. The stone can only be used for good so it is useless to try to use it otherwise.
I will leave the floor open to questions now, if you have any, and I will answer them after consulting with the council elders…………………

[Shaolinfist]

Jesus

Hi! A bit of a change of topic - within the frame of this thread! About Jesus going to Tibet and learning from Buddhist monks....
If he did indeed do this, why is there no mention of Buddha or Tibet in his teachings? Surely anyone who has become Enlightened through the Buddhas teaching would rightly acknowledge him as thier Lord and Teacher! I think if Jesus was a Buddhist, Christianity would exist as Buddhism! This seems only logical.

Ami Tuo Fo

Phil

[chiron]

hello

my impression of the stone.. some positive, some negative.. this is just my unedited responsive feeling towards seeing the images of it.

the case had a 'better' feeling to it. more intersting.

the stone, i felt a slight repulsion to it, a 'stay away, ' energy warning. a.. clear feeling that this stone is not a possesion, it is possesed by nobody, noone can have ownership of it.. it is its own...if you see what i mean.
on the other hand, i felt that it was a personal possesion of someone at some time, that they used as a tool to focous and concentrate their ideas.... and clear their mind to fcous on their vision.. it was a way of clearning mental thought processes, eradicating what was unnessercary..a focous tool.

the first thing i noticed was 'fighting power' this stood out the most and seems to be the most significant part.

i feel to say that it has also been used for negative ideas at times. but that is also over.

next i saw 'radiant search'

'impossible understanding' i think this means, wisdom, or wisdom that cannot be known to a huamn, any human, at any time in their human form. this part of the energy will no be imparted to living beings on this plane. just not possible, beyond, capabilites of human existence... ie; even jesus, .

then 'fortune'

then.. the energy that... this fortune could be 'sent down' by a 'violation of trust, spoken'

then i got, 'centuries, attitude, held, focoused, potent, revealed'

then i felt, 'fear, superstition' and i think this relates to how people react to such myths.

i cant say if the stone has power or if its a kind of placebo.. but the enrgies of it, relating to hpw people interact with it.. were, possesion, held, focusing, fear.

thats not everyone whos come into conatct with it, just a few.

the energies of the stone... seperate from the attatchments of people...
were the positive things...

radiant search, impossible understanding, fighting power, fortune'

so, in conclusion!! i feel the stone is a positive thing, marred perhaps by misuse. or fear.

i think the enrgy of the stone is unclear becuase of the superstitions that people put on to it.

i think the symbols mean positive things, but the superstition has somehow blocked these energies from being readily obvious.

shame.

peace xxxxxx

[Zenon]

Greetings,

Let's continue the story.

The Stone is known as "The Chintamani Stone". It was said that The Stone originated from The Constellation Orion. It is The Stone of Destiny. It energies radiate and cover a vast area and influence world events. It is more than an artifact. It is believed to be The Key to doors of secrets that were sealed aeon ago.

The Stone is a form of black color moldavite which has a strange magnetic properties. It appears to be a trapezohedron with glowing striatons. Scientists would not be able to study it completely because it exists only paritially in humanities concept of matter and space.

According to legends The Stone had passed from Atlantis to King Solomon, other rulers and kings. How then it got itself landed in Tibet/Mongolia/China? It was believed that Jesus took The Stone via The Silk Road to Tibet. Here I would like to mention that according to the Bible Jesus went missing during his teen and didn't return to Jerusalem until when he was about 30 years old. Where was he and where did he go during his "missing years"? He went to Tibet via The Silk Road with one of his uncles who was a trader who used to commute via The Silk Road to China. While in Tibet Jesus he learned from Tibetan Lamas amongst other things martial arts and the teaching of Buddha.

For those who are familar with the Bible they will recall reading about Jesus walking on water. This is in fact a martial art technique known as "Shui Sheng Fei". I have the opportunity to witness the art of "Shui Sheng Fei" once.

There is record in Tibet until today that a certain young man was there by the name of "Issa" and Issa was in fact Jesus. I will not go into details here as there is too much to write.

According to Helena Roerich (wife of NR) in her book "On Eastern Crossroads" written under the pseudonym Josephine St.Hilarie she related "The Stone" as the quest for The Holy Grail. The Stone according to her was shaped liked an oblong fruit or human heart with grayish brillance with signs i.e writings which she didn't understand and it was kept in an ivory casket.

Just before RN died in India he wrote in "Himalayas, Abode of Light" that "The Stone was usually brought by quite unexpected, unknown people in quite another country". This prediction as far as I am concerned has been fulfilled when The Stone came to me.

When FDR commissioned HR to search for The Stone nobody knew where it was then and this included HR himself. It was said to be in Tibet. Some said it was in Mongolia/China. Buddhist and Taoist records said it was in Kun Lun Shan - The Abode of The Eight Immortals as well as the abode of many ancient martial arts masters who considered The Stone as The Treasure of The Abode. NR believed it was in Shambhala i.e Shangri-la. Shangri-la is in Yunam, China. I have been there myself.

The Stone is a key, a key to all futures and everyone's destiny. It is a point of power, a nontechnological quantum of vortex of energies. For this reason as well as well as others FDR and Hitler wanted it so badly.

I shall continue the story in my next contribution about "The Mission".I will come to the actual secrets of The Stone in due course.

Best Regards,
Frank

God damn interesting!! I havent read the whole thing yet but I am pretty excited by this story. Btw: In Greek Jesus is called "Iisous". "I" pronounced as the letter "e" in the aphabet and "ou" pronounced like the "oo" in the word "loose".

A coincidence that "Issa" sounds a bit like "Iisous"?

[cosmic dancer]

Frank!!

any more to report??

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Ed

[7:2:5]

Is this the last post the Dr. Loo wrote here at this forum? (p. 33 of this thread) ~ 7:2:5

I am presently traveling in China and when I clicked into this forum I am pleasantly surprised that this thread has hit over 15,000 viewings. I am delighted about it. I know many readers are not members of this forum and they clicked into this forum because they are interested in reading this thread. How do I know? I have been receiving a flood of e-mails from non-members telling me about it. I am taking this opportunity to thank them for their interest.

I am presently working together with scientists in America on This Stone. Hopefully they will come up with something exciting and I very much hope they can decode what is hidden in The Stone other than what I already know. I am keeping my fingers crossed and if there is further development I will let you know.

Frank

[BubblyHai]

wow that was a really long thread!!!! hum did his book every come out?

[steve]

Don't suck up everything you hear. Or worse, what you resonate with, your discernment could be faulty - follow your instinct, like a moth into a flame - following the obvious gullible trap!

Check out some Penn & Teller BS - your questions answered

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_P6FB1uZdE