Originally posted by Shaolinfist
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The circumstances are "practicing", as I wrote above. But I know the metaphor is flawed. Of course catching and throwing are part of baseball proper, but I was talking about practice.
What I meant was if you saw a group of baseball players training, you wouldn't say they're playing baseball, despite the fact that what they are doing is an integral and perhaps necessary part of their profession. So you could say their training is part of baseball (Like you were arguing with the one-pointed mind), or you could say that it is just not baseball (like George was doing regarding Zen).
Where my metaphor doesn't work is that throwing and catching actually happen during baseball, but there is no one-pointed mind during Zen meditation, only non-thought, non-abiding.
Theoretically speaking, of course, my mind often wanders like crazy in meditation.
Feel free to debunk my logic as you wish, could be fun
Jim
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