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  • What are the three ultimates of Shaolin Kung Fu?

    Dear Family,

    we have many triples in our Arts. (3 Golden Rules are among them)

    What are the three ultimates of Shaolin Kung Fu?
    14
    Dragon Palm, Tiger Claw, Nei Kung
    0.00%
    0
    Sabre, Staff, Trident
    0.00%
    0
    Chin-Na, Dim Mark and Nei Kung
    57.14%
    8
    Lohan Fist, Wuzuquan, Cosmos Palm
    0.00%
    0
    Sinew Metamorphosis, Internal Force, Zen
    42.86%
    6

    The poll is expired.

    Engage and maintain joyful practice!

    May all of you get the best benefits from what you do.

    Anton Schmick
    Shaolin Wahnam Germany Nord

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  • #2
    In my humble opinion Sinew Metamorphosis, Bone Marrow Cleansing, Zen

    o\
    chris

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    • #3
      Dear Chris,

      thanks for your answer!
      I am really curious to know why did you choose the above to be the three ultimates of Shaolin Kung Fu?

      Best regards,
      Anton.
      Engage and maintain joyful practice!

      May all of you get the best benefits from what you do.

      Anton Schmick
      Shaolin Wahnam Germany Nord

      shaolinwahnamchina.com
      http://chikunghamburg.wordpress.com
      http://shaolinwahnam-nord.de
      http://kungfu-luebeck.de

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      • #4
        Hi Anton Siheng!

        I was having a bit difficulty understanding what are the themes for each poll option. Is this correct reasoning?

        #1: The most powerful techniques/skills for unarmed combat
        #2: The most famous Shaolin weapons
        #3: Classically recognized highest arts in all Kungfu
        #4: The origin, the condensation, and the essential skill of Shaolin Kungfu
        #5: Boddhidharma's legacy in Shaolin Kungfu

        With sincere respect,
        Olli

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        • #5
          Dear Sihing

          I thought they were One-Finger-Zen, Palm Strike (i cannot recall the exact name) and Marvelous Fist.

          If limited to the list above I would say Chin-Na, Dim Mark and Nei Kung.
          They are advanced and very effective. And you are asking the question while preparing a Chin-na course .

          Andrea
          Last edited by Andrea; 10 May 2016, 09:51 PM.
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          • #6
            I believe it is “Strike-Across-Space Palm”:

            Sifu wrote a bit about it here:


            Best,
            Alex
            "Take a moment to feel how wonderful it feels just to be alive."
            - Sifu

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            • #7
              Perhaps One-Finger-Zen, Strike-Across-Space Palm and Marvelous Fist were the "old" ultimates

              I've went with Sinew Metamorphosis, Internal Force and Zen ... as they are the gateway skills to all arts, and without which the ultimate cannot be obtained
              Sifu Andy Cusick

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AlexBaranosky View Post
                I believe it is “Strike-Across-Space Palm”:

                Sifu wrote a bit about it here:


                Best,
                Alex
                Thanks for the name and link. Yes that's what I thought about.

                Best regards
                Andrea
                Enjoy some Wahnam Tai Chi Chuan & Qi Gong!

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                • #9
                  Perhaps One Finger Shooting Zen, Cosmos Palm, and Marvelous fist are the ultimate martial attainments.

                  I have read of Sigung describing Dim Mak, Chin Na, and Nei Gung as the ultimate martial arts.

                  Perhaps Sinew Metamorphosis, Internal Force, and Zen are the ultimate spiritual arts of physical, energetic, and mental progression?
                  Shaolin Wahnam USA

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                  • #10
                    I chose Sinew Metamorphosis, Internal Force and Zen, for the same reason as David mentioned above, the correspondence with Jing, Chi, and Shen. Also, because Zen is the pinnacle of kungfu.

                    Am I certain I am correct? No.



                    Cheers,

                    Charles
                    Charles David Chalmers
                    Brunei Darussalam

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                    • #11
                      My answer is dependent.

                      If the emphasis is Shaolin Kungfu, then the fifth option is the correct choice without any doubt.

                      If the emphasis is Shaolin Kungfu, then the third option is the correct choice.

                      Essentially holistic cultivation vs. combat applications. As I treasure more former, I voted for the Legacy of Bodhidharma.

                      With sincere respect,
                      Olli

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                      • #12
                        hehehe! I like our discussion

                        @Olli:
                        What if the emphasis is on Shaolin Kung Fu?
                        Engage and maintain joyful practice!

                        May all of you get the best benefits from what you do.

                        Anton Schmick
                        Shaolin Wahnam Germany Nord

                        shaolinwahnamchina.com
                        http://chikunghamburg.wordpress.com
                        http://shaolinwahnam-nord.de
                        http://kungfu-luebeck.de

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                        • #13
                          Btw, on the latest Grandmaster's Q&A Sifu provides some insight to this question.

                          Best wishes,
                          Markus Kahila
                          Shaolin Nordic Finland

                          www.shaolin-nordic.com

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for the link, Markus!

                            Sigung is very clear about the three ultimates of Shaolin Kung Fu. He mentioned them being Dim Mark, Chin Na and Nei Kung.
                            While I was creating the poles, I produced the triplets out of the blue. So Sinew Metamorphosis, Internal Force and Zen are a nice one. Hehe
                            Maybe it can be summarized under Nei Kung in a broader sense, thereby standing among the ultimates on the side of Dim Mark and Chin Na.

                            Honestly during the Dragon Strength courses I was very astonished on the skill required and the depth of Shaolin Dim Mark. It is a pity for those who missed it.

                            However I did not have a chance to learn Chin Na from Sigung yet. And I am really looking forward to it
                            I am also not sure when we will have a chance to learn Chin Na from Sigung, hence the last course was eight years ago. I don´t know whether it will be repeated at all. And I think there is a deeper meaning to learning one of the ultimates compared to learning one of many.

                            With best regards,
                            Anton.
                            Engage and maintain joyful practice!

                            May all of you get the best benefits from what you do.

                            Anton Schmick
                            Shaolin Wahnam Germany Nord

                            shaolinwahnamchina.com
                            http://chikunghamburg.wordpress.com
                            http://shaolinwahnam-nord.de
                            http://kungfu-luebeck.de

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                            • #15
                              Another interesting question is:

                              "Why are Dim Mark, Chin Na and Nei Kung the three ultimates of Shaolin?"

                              What do they have in common? And why are´t the three ultimates anything else?
                              Engage and maintain joyful practice!

                              May all of you get the best benefits from what you do.

                              Anton Schmick
                              Shaolin Wahnam Germany Nord

                              shaolinwahnamchina.com
                              http://chikunghamburg.wordpress.com
                              http://shaolinwahnam-nord.de
                              http://kungfu-luebeck.de

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