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  • Can you find the mistakes (Golden Dragon Plays With Water)?

    Another Friday, another video!

    Today, we have one of the basic patterns of Shaolin Kung Fu, "Golden Dragon Plays with Water".



    Am I doing it correctly or can you find some mistakes?

    Dear fellow instructors, please give our students a chance to answer first.

    One of the mistakes is quite hard to see, maybe our instructors can fill this gap - if neccessary - on Sunday, before I post the solution at night.

    Have fun!

    Best wishes,

    Leo
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  • #2
    Great idea this thread . I let others answer first.
    Enjoy some Wahnam Tai Chi Chuan & Qi Gong!

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    • #3
      Dear Leo Sidai,

      Thank you for creating another wonderful opportunity for learning more about these beautiful arts. I am not very knowledgable in Shaolin Kung Fu so I had to watch a video about this pattern.

      May you be missing to straighten some more fingers in your right hand? If that is one of the mistakes, may I ask what is the difference between having just one finger straight and having 3 fingers straight?

      With Love, Care and Shaolin Salute,

      Santi

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sancrica View Post
        If that is one of the mistakes, may I ask what is the difference between having just one finger straight and having 3 fingers straight?
        Yes, Siheng. I used the One Finger Zen hand form instead of the dragon hand form, which consists of two straight fingers.

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        Before answering your question about the difference, what do our students think?
        Last edited by Leo Shaolin; 31st August 2018, 11:14 AM.
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        • #5
          Hey Sifu o\

          First the Handform is incorrect it look likes One Finger Zen it should be two finger straight like the Dragon Hand.

          Next is the Arm goes sideways instead straight to front so it is missing the trensfer of the opponets attack.

          The Movement comes to much from the ellbow and Zenfa Bodymovent is missing.

          Last but not least the upper Body is leanig Forward and is not in the center so the qi is lockt in the hips.

          Best wishes,
          Toudai
          o\

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          • #6
            Welcome to the forum, Daniel!

            Your profile picture fits very well to this video.

            Originally posted by Daniel Neubauer View Post
            Hey Sifu o\

            First the Handform is incorrect it look likes One Finger Zen it should be two finger straight like the Dragon Hand.
            Yes, correct!

            Next is the Arm goes sideways instead straight to front so it is missing the trensfer of the opponets attack.
            Exactly. The video shows a flick or block instead of a thread.

            The Movement comes to much from the ellbow and Zenfa Bodymovent is missing.

            Last but not least the upper Body is leanig Forward and is not in the center so the qi is lockt in the hips.
            Yes, the upper body is twisted to face the opponent. This results in a misalignement of the leg and also some blockage at the hips.

            Well done!

            Best wishes,
            o\

            Sifu
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            • #7
              Dear fellow instructors,

              You are welcome to continue from now on.

              Best wishes,

              Leo
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              • #8
                Another great educational video brother

                I would just like to add to the above mentioned mistakes that the pattern is done not in a flow, but in a very robotic manner.

                With Shaolin Salute,
                Lee Wei Joo
                http://shaolinwahnammalaysia.com/

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                • #9
                  Dear Sisookgung,

                  is it possible that you consciously place too much weight on the front leg?

                  Kindest regards,
                  Steffen

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                  • #10
                    Despite the above mentioned external mistakes, the spirit of the dragon is missing.
                    Engage and maintain joyful practice!

                    May all of you get the best benefits from what you do.

                    Anton Schmick
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                    • #11
                      Now, here is the solution to "Golden Dragon Plays with Water".



                      Coming back to Santi Siheng's question, about the difference between using one or two fingers.

                      The One Finger Zen hand form obviously uses the index finger, while the dragon hand form makes more use of the middle finger.

                      In comparison the One Finger Zen hand form is softer and more flowing than the dragon hand form, which is harder and more consolidated.

                      See you all next Friday for the next video!

                      Best wishes,

                      Leo
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Steffen View Post
                        Dear Sisookgung,

                        is it possible that you consciously place too much weight on the front leg?

                        Kindest regards,
                        Steffen
                        Dear Sijatsoon,

                        It might be possible, but I hope not, as it wouldn't have been intended.
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                        • #13
                          "Now with a bit of force"!

                          Magical words! Thanks for your marvellous work, Leo!


                          Off to practice,

                          Cha
                          Charles David Chalmers
                          Brunei Darussalam

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                          • #14
                            I very much appreciate how your "mistake" videos are shown with incorrect movements, but not in a manner that is mocking or insulting to any students that may make those mistakes. Even the solution videos, with the buzzer, remain light hearted and are a fun way to point out the mistakes. Signs of a kind teacher!!

                            -Matt

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                            • #15
                              Dear Sidai,

                              Originally posted by Leo Shaolin View Post
                              Now, here is the solution to "Golden Dragon Plays with Water".



                              Coming back to Santi Siheng's question, about the difference between using one or two fingers.

                              The One Finger Zen hand form obviously uses the index finger, while the dragon hand form makes more use of the middle finger.

                              In comparison the One Finger Zen hand form is softer and more flowing than the dragon hand form, which is harder and more consolidated.

                              See you all next Friday for the next video!

                              Best wishes,

                              Leo
                              Thank you for another wonderful video series. I am sure that many will benefit from them.

                              Thank you also for taking the time to answer my question. Your answer arose in me another question. What would be the difference between the dragon hand form and the 2 fingers shooting Zen hand form? or is it the same?

                              With Love, Care and Shaolin Salute,

                              Santi

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