Chi Kung and Anger

[PhilH]

I have a friend who is a buddhist, and says that because of his teachings he is tranquil 80% of the time. Dr Tran's post about not being able to be angry reminded me of this.

My friend is in my opinion manic 90% of the time (but he is a north Corker - from Macroom !). Perhaps compared to how he was previously, he is now tranquil!

Having visited Macroom when I trained with the Kerry group, I was astounded to find that most of the people were like Frank - I thought he was unique.

My point is, chi kung is a natural practice. In nature, events progress naturally. Sometimes there is silence. Sometimes there are storms, earthquakes. It is not natural to be tranquil all of the time. We must react naturally to our circumstances. Sometimes we will will be quiet, sometimes we will be devastating - scholar warriors.

What do you think?

[Dr.Tran]

Hey thanks for reading my post.

I have thoght about it and then when I thought I got it, I lost it. If you look at the chinese paradigim about the emotions, you will see every one in a countious cycle. Wood (angry), fire (joy), earth (pensiveness), metal (sorrow), and water (fear) is the emotions that will create and destory another. If we look at this way, then if angry is gone then another cannot be created. So it then becomes a train wreck and all will fail. Or there is one that is too much. It all has to be balanced.

And then there is the fact that anger can cause negatives that should just be avoided. So just to remove anger seems logical.

In the end, it just becomes a be question mark.

thats what I think. I don't know ?

[roland]

Dear Dr Tran,

Just to tell you what I was expained once. Every organ has a negative and a positive emotion that corresponds to that organ. For example, the lungs correspond to positive emotion of courage; if blocked, it becomes sorrow / depression. The hart corresponds to joy and hate; the kidneys fear and gentleness etc. If each organ is in a healthy state then they will "nourish" the other organs.... (trying to get to that state..)

hope this might help; but maybe someone else can expand on this..

Roeland

[AussieMark]

Liver/Anger

I used to get easily irritated and angry, and then I had the greatest fortune of discovering 'different perspectives' - and new ways to not only understand oneself, but the world.

I remember reading about how anger was just a useless waste of energy and a petty indulgence and after that, I fundamentally changed my viewpoint - after some meditation on the subject.
I thought to myself, why waste energy etc .etc. Life is so beautiful, why waste it in anger, and instead of being angry and losing control, the challenge is/was to turn it inside out and find what it really is within oneself that makes one angry.

I guess if one is allways smiling from the heart, it must be very difficult to "get angry".

I recall reading about a famous Yogi, Swami Muktananda, one day his teacher told him ... don't get angry, if you get angry, get angry at anger!

HAHAHA!


Many things struck me, quotes such as "To out act in anger, is to to lose control, to lose control is to be defeated" etc etc. Just meditiating on these viewpoints can really bring about alot of understanding and peace. (My perspective .. sorry


I had terrible liver problems a few months back. And I did something (well a few things) .. unforgiveable. One of them was I got angry with my Grandma. The effect of that was true to stabbing myself in the heart. I vowed on the spot to fix myself up, and swore I would never get angry at such beautiful people (if anyone) again. And thus began a SERIOUS evaluation of the "mind" LOL AHAHAHA!


Which brings me to a very crucial point (and I apologise for the extensive nature of this diatribe). Meditation. Concentrating on slowing down one's energy, visualising cosmic energy entering you, purifying you .. but doing it with a sincere heart.
I had the Greatest, Unbelievable fortune of meeting a beautiful Taoist master, and among the myriad things he has spoken, simple things like ... when you have a shower, visualise the water cleansing you ... etc etc


It's been my experience that positive thinking is accumulative. By creating that Positive Intentionality, we oppose the Negative forms already existant within our system. And by concentrating on that Positive Intention with sincerity, the Intention grows and previous negative forms within our minds can be absorbed - almost instantly.

Practice. Practice. Practice


I now realise, that you can make "getting well" into an art-form incorporating piece by piece into your everyday life.


There's so much to learn!!


Positive thinking. What a great challenge!









P.S. Milk Thistle is an exceptional herb for cleansing the liver.


God Bless All and Him-Self

With much Affection,

Aussie Mark

[danjomeniz]

Hi PhilP,

If a pain in the body hijacks your attention, you may be irritated.

If you consume substances that stimulate the nervous system (Coffee, tea, tobacco, alcohol...) when they lose their effect, you will be irritated.

If you consume substances that inhibit the nervous system, you will be irritated.

If you consume food with negative prana, difficult to digest, you will be irritated.

if you maintain bad posture, you will be irritated.

Whether the body is irritated and you use conscious intellect or not, what you are thinking about will not be pleasant.

On the other hand, if body pain does not hijack your attention, if you do not consume stimulant substances or inhibitors of the nervous system, and maintain a healthy diet, even if you are thinking of Chucky the evil doll, your thought would be a pleasant one.

Best regards,

[Chiahua]

So uh, what's the story with Macroom? What about them did you find odd? I was trying to find an answer and only saw a Reddit thread that said that folks there were pretty normal... just a regular quiet-ish town. Maybe a drug problem. Never been to Ireland but would love to go some day.
Anyway PhilH I like what you wrote: "In nature, events progress naturally. Sometimes there is silence. Sometimes there are storms, earthquakes. It is not natural to be tranquil all of the time. We must react naturally to our circumstances. Sometimes we will will be quiet, sometimes we will be devastating - scholar warriors."

I've been absorbing a lot of American Buddhist philosophy (especially the Insight Meditation Society which is Theravadan) and I like their take on it, which is very similar to what you wrote: emotions are going to arise; that's part of being human---part of nature as you said. What we have control over is what we do with that anger and I can say that having done qigong/meditation for as long as I have, some behavior patterns are deeply ingrained and take time to fade. Qi flow does help "flush things through the system", but my practice level doesn't mean I don't react or express my anger in the most skillful ways. (I'm writing this mainly as a reminder to myself haha).