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    Dear family,

    As some of you might know, I suffer from schizophrenia and hallucinate with divine Beings sometimes. Often, I think that I am being attacked by them, or even by masters such as Ho Fatty Nam.

    Now what happened is that I prayed to the Immortal Li while watching a video about him and his life. It turns out that he answered, but in a very rude/tough manner.

    I didn't know him like this.
    Now it's the Virgin Mary who appeared out of nowhere maybe last week (I don't pray to her or christian divinities) and she pushes me into believing in God, etc
    I just cannot escape her, even when I ask Guan Yin for help!
    Basically, I have to change my ways to Christian ones.
    For example, Sifu taught me to send blessings. He never taught me "how" so without worrying, I would do when smiling from the heart. I would send the blessing from my heart. It always made me feel better.
    Now the Virgin says that only God can bless and that I do it wrong.

    In case of schizophrenia, how can I stop these voices/characters?

    In case it is true, how can I politely let them know that I am not interested in taking their path?


    Thank you very much.

  • #2
    Dear Jinkaku,

    The being you believe to be the Virgin Mary doesn't sound - to me - like a truly loving being, based on what you have written.

    You have the power to challenge any being that comes into your space.

    One way of doing this is to see in your mind yourself holding up a sword of Truth above your head with the end of the sword pointing to the heavens. You can say to the being "Are you working for the good of God and mankind?" If they are genuine, they will be able to take the sword from you and hold it up to the heavens. If they are a mischievous being, they should back away.

    You are a sovereign being, and you have free will. If a being, once challenged, is directing you to do something, you have free will to make your own choices. You can tell them, "thank you for the suggestion, I respectfully decline".

    Even if the being seems to be of the purest, most Divine nature, it's still OK to offer the challenge before you take too much heed to what they say. Divine beings will never be concerned about the challenge and are happy to do this.

    I am not a doctor so cannot comment on how to stop voices/characters, I would suggest to carry on with your practice, enjoying your practice.

    I hope this helps.

    Blessings, and Shaolin salute /o
    With love and Shaolin salute /o

    "Your purpose in life is to find your purpose & give your whole heart and soul to it." - Buddha

    Gate gate pāragate pārasaṃgate bodhi svāhā.

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    • #3
      Dear Matthew,

      Thanks a million times for your message! I was so confused with the Virgin forcing me to go to church, etc.

      I am a little busy now, but I will do your practice with Guan Yin, Immortal Li, Jesus (who also appeared to me out of the blue) and the Virgin.

      You told me that if they were not who they pretend to be, they would back away. Should I understand that it is enough to make them leave? Should I chase them?

      I am sorry if my question is silly, but a part of me is still wondering it this is my mind making thing.

      All the best,
      Alonso

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      • #4
        Dear Alonso,

        You understand correctly. If they are not working for the light they will not take the sword from you and hold it up and will back away. No need to chase.

        Blessings, and Shaolin salute /o

        Matthew
        With love and Shaolin salute /o

        "Your purpose in life is to find your purpose & give your whole heart and soul to it." - Buddha

        Gate gate pāragate pārasaṃgate bodhi svāhā.

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        • #5
          Dear Matthew,

          Thank you from the Heart.

          I did it with all of them last night. And I did it again today.
          Unfortunately, the Virgin Mary held up the sword.
          However, I should notice that when I did it last night (and somehow today), the sword didn't look very realistic as they took it. They looked a little bit cartoonish, and the sword too.

          Thank you from the Heart.

          ​​​​​​​P.S. I feel like your input should be highlighted!

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          • #6
            Dear Matthew,

            I did the practice wish success.

            However I just had lunch, and Guan Yin Bodh Satt (,without me asking her) told me to stop because some of them were alive.

            What disturbs me is that according to them: I send blessings the wrong way, I should stop my chi kung practice, I should stop doing what you told me, etc.

            I was going to write this post thanking you for such a powerful practice!!! But now Guan Yin says that I shouldn't do it.

            I'm sure she has good reasons and I respect her. I just need to stop this situation.
            Last edited by Jinkaku; 26 September 2024, 11:01 AM.

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            • #7
              Hi Alonso,

              My suggestion would be to stop all internal practice. Stop chi kung, stop sending blessings, stop praying, etc. Start doing something external. That could be learning and practicing kung-fu patterns and sets (without trying to develop or use internal force), dedicating your time to building flexibility, enjoying hikes, playing sports, etc.

              Give your internal systems some time off to rest. You can't correct a damaged system with force.

              Give yourself at least 6 months to a year with no internal practice. Don't substitute internal practice from one culture for internal practice from another (i.e. stop doing cki kung and start praying a lot). Let it ALL go for a while, and enjoy something physical.

              I think you will enjoy it.

              -Matt

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              • #8
                Thank you dear Matt.

                I will stop, then.

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                • #9
                  If you do decide to try taking some time off, do so happily. It can be a much needed vacation, after which you may feel refreshed and renewed. It doesn't have to be a permanent stop to all internal practice forever.

                  -Matt

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                  • #10
                    I think that I need a pause indeed. I am still being bothered by beings that "control" me a little.
                    The technique shown above worked, but the next day (today) they somehow all had a sword.

                    So I think that I need a rest.

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                    • #11
                      Dear family, I hope you are all doing great.

                      I come here to ask about a couple of things.
                      Since I was given advice by Matt F., I have stopped chi kung and prayers, as he recommended me. Chi Kung was easy to give up, but I've had more trouble with prayer, due to, for example, being in a difficult position.

                      Anyway, the other day I was with my dad in his car, when I "spotted" two family members who have passed away. Then it was God asking me to give all my belongings. As a side note, even when I visit this forum and look at the picture of Amitabha in the banner, he tells me the same thing.

                      Now, I don't wanna sound egoistic, but I don't feel like giving my stuff, at the moment.
                      Matt told me to notice that it was all false, and I am doing that right now, but half of my mind wonders if it was true.

                      I tried the sword technique, but I am not sure if it worked.

                      Anyway, I don't wanna make this too long. Thank you for reading me, and all the best!

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                      • #12
                        Maybe I should add that I am fine continuing with Matt's advice, but he told me that he was no expert, so I just ask here.

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                        • #13
                          Dear family,

                          Hello everyone and sorry for yet another message.
                          Yesterday (or 2 days ago?), I started using all the methods posted and sent by message by Matthew.
                          I have tried and tried, but these beings (likely my own imagination... But I don't know) never leave me.

                          They are Jesus, Mary, Padre Pio and yesterday even Shiva.
                          I do not pray to any of them, I am not a Christian, and I am not interested in what they have to offer.

                          They want me to make stupid faces because it is the "joy of the Lord" and stuff like that. I have declined, but it is pointless.

                          I hope that I do not annoy any of you with my posts, but living this 7/7 24/24 is taking a toll on me.

                          Thank you.

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                          • #14
                            Heard that Isha Foundation health programs have helped with psychological challenges: it has an email contact for Europe, perhaps you can enquire at their
                            General Queries: uk@ishafoundation.org

                            Best wishes in all your good endeavours for good health. ​
                            Damian Kissey
                            Shaolin Wahnam Sabah , Malaysia .
                            www.shaolinwahnamsabah.com

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                            • #15
                              Dear Sifu Kissey,

                              Many thanks for your help. So far, and I hope this is not disrespectful, I will leave it aside and continue with the advice received.

                              I am still visited by Jesus who wants to convert me, etc.

                              I don't understand. 2 years ago, when I was deeply hallucinating, the ghost? Spirit? Angel? of a Japanese musician came to me to make my life painful. I used to scream at him and smack my head due to him.

                              Now he appears again, and when I pray to Guan Yin or Jesus to be free from him, they let him approach me as if we were friends.


                              I have been told that Jesus is not like that, but when I do the sword technique, he takes the sword.

                              I was wondering, should I start with chi kung again?

                              Thank you in advance.
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                              ​​​​​​EDIT. The advice that I have received so far was to stop all internal activity and focus on physical activities. I have also been told that martial arts are the best, as it keeps my mind and body focused on one thing.

                              ​​​​​​I am okay with such advice. The thing is that I caught a nasty flu and haven't been able to exercise. Maybe that's a cause?

                              (Edited for orthography and info on my practices)
                              Last edited by Jinkaku; 8 February 2025, 12:26 PM.

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