My chikung practice and the saboteur inside me

[chikung_china]

Hi all, I dont know if someone can give me a light on this problem.
I live on Brazil, so there is no instructors here.
On end of 2016 I was looking for Chi kung practices and I found the books from Master Wong.
After some few weeks of practicing, I think 1 month I started feeling the follwoing:

Electric force moving around my body, the self manifested chikung.
A very light sensation on my muscles that keep growing along the days.
Sleep started become better.

But, there is one week, one week that was the best week of my life, I never had such sensation, during all the day it was possible to feel a sensation on my body and mind that I cant not explain, was like I no feeling the muscles, my body was light, my mind was light, I never slept so well like that week.
I go to the gym and that week I felt like I could perform multiple sessions of various exercices, I could lift weight wich much more mass unlike before.
But after a time I loose all of these, even practicing the same way as before.
Anoter thing, even today I'm capable to feel the chi flow on my body, I can some time direct the flow where I can but seems that there is some limitations.

Here a thing that I dont know if happens to everyone, I discovered something weird with my, my mind, each time that I learn something new related to control of mind, body, I can for a few days get success on the practicing but after some time my mind start blocking, for example, when I try to medidate, relax, read, I start feeling a huge sensation behind my eyes that start contract my eye muscles, some this is like a huge contraction inside my head that I can not explain. I know that is not just the eye muscles, I can feel something moving inside my head. This is a very unpleasant sensation because for example it blocking me even for readh for a time anything or even relax.

Sorry if is not clear. To summarize:
I discovered in me something weird, a thing that I can not explain related to the conscious mind, because of this if I can become conscious of a subtle sensation and have control of it, like the chi flow on the body, is like this thing start trying to control the sensation and because that a block is created.
Because that I cant not relax, medidate, or now practicing chi kung, is like I could not free me mind.
As anyone faced something like this?


The ckikung exercicies that I was doing were:
Smile from the Hear with Lifting the Sky
Plucking Stars
Big Windmil
Pushing Mountains
Carrying the Moon
Circulating Head
Merry-Go-Round
Hula Hoop
Deep Knee Bending
Circulating Knees

And a short session of the Self-Manifested Chi Kung


This was the exercices, when my problem started I started feel very tired, without energy, sleeping whell. So I stopped everything, but besides that this huge feeling on my head continue.

[Andrew]

Just for clarification: you performed all of those exercises every day in a single chi kung session? How long did the sessions last?

[chikung_china]

Hi Andrew, my session last about 15 to 20 minutes, were short sessions. I was doing one session on the morning and another at night before go to sleep.

[Dimitri]

Hi Andrew, my session last about 15 to 20 minutes, were short sessions. I was doing one session on the morning and another at night before go to sleep.

Hi,

just to get a better understanding of what happend:

You performed since the end of 2016 every day 2 sessions with about 15-20min? Have you performed all exercises you wrote down in one session (15-20min)?

Would you describe this feeling like your eyes are shaking?

Anyway, to learn from books is good, but to learn from a living master is inescabable at some point. Only a master will show the stundent the way, and help him to avoid doing mistakes in his practise. The finer points of chi kung can only be learned from a living master. The results you're having now are linked to your over (wrong) practise. Even your body is telling you already that something is going wrong. You should pause your practise now and see if things will change.

If you have the possibility to visit one of our instructors, or to attend an intensive chi kung course by Grandmaster Wong in Malaysia, this may help you. If you can not do so then a chinese pyhsician can also help you. Anyway if you dont have any access to a chinese physician you should consult your doctor. This is the recommendation I can give to you, based on the info you shared wih us. And dont worry

Maybe someone else can also give a recommendation.

With shaolin salute,
Dimitri.

[chikung_china]

Here another experience the give more insight about my problem.
I can any time use my intent and start the flow around the microcosmic orbit, but, just after I start, I feel the flow and I feel something blocking the flow and changing the course of the flow, I try to only feel, try to let the flow free but is feel one part of my mind trying to take control of this flow instead of let it go.

[chikung_china]

Hi,

just to get a better understanding of what happend:

You performed since the end of 2016 every day 2 sessions with about 15-20min? Have you performed all exercises you wrote down in one session (15-20min)?

Would you describe this feeling like your eyes are shaking?

Anyway, to learn from books is good, but to learn from a living master is inescabable at some point. Only a master will show the stundent the way, and help him to avoid doing mistakes in his practise. The finer points of chi kung can only be learned from a living master. The results you're having now are linked to your over (wrong) practise. Even your body is telling you already that something is going wrong. You should pause your practise now and see if things will change.

If you have the possibility to visit one of our instructors, or to attend an intensive chi kung course by Grandmaster Wong in Malaysia, this may help you. If you can not do so then a chinese pyhsician can also help you. Anyway if you dont have any access to a chinese physician you should consult your doctor. This is the recommendation I can give to you, based on the info you shared wih us. And dont worry

Maybe someone else can also give a recommendation.

With shaolin salute,
Dimitri.

Hi Dimitri,

I started my practice at the end of 2016 and last for only some months on 2017, I'm not practicing since then.
I stopped after I notice that instead of getting better, I was getting worst.
The sensations that I describe persist until now, even I'm not practicing more.

[Andrew]

I can any time use my intent and start the flow around the microcosmic orbit, but, just after I start, I feel the flow and I feel something blocking the flow and changing the course of the flow, I try to only feel, try to let the flow free but is feel one part of my mind trying to take control of this flow instead of let it go.

I thought you had stopped practicing? Why, then, are you trying to force the microcosmic orbit?

[chikung_china]

Hi Andrew, I was not forcing, only try to feel, in fact what I feel is like my inconcious mind try to take control of the energy flow inside the body, is a strange sensation, is not only like a resistance to the flow around the body, is like something else trying to get control of the flow and stop it, not matter what I try to do or not do. To be clear, now for example, I can feel the flow, I can sense but at the same time I can sense a resistance , something trying to control the flow and not let him move, at the same time I feel a presure on the head, some times increase, some times increases. This is followed as well by a pressure of the internal muscles of the eyes, and the problem with this as well that I can not even relax my body or my mind.
I searched a lot but I not find anything related to the inconcious mind taking control of the free flow. Is because that that I called this internal saboteur.

Sorry for the delay on response, I was busy with work and studying in involved in a lot of things.

[chikung_china]

To add more, a time ago, when I started practicing, I could feeel the energy move at free inside my body and head, was a nice sensation, was easy to practice the automanifested chikung as well, the interesting thing about this is at that time, I could only feel the flow inside my body, I was not able to controle, change the flow with my mind, after a time of practice, I became capable of control the energy flow with my intention, and after that all of these started, I searched a lot to see if this is a comon thing of if other people faced the same thing but I dont had success on this, I was reading this topic about karmic blockages https://www.wongkiewkit.com/forum/fo...riences/12720- and I was wondering if this could explain what happens to me.