Chi and adult film stars

[Christoff]

Hello,

Sorry for the crude title, but after taking an interest in chinese medicine I have a question regarding adult film stars, particulary male.
I read recently in a reputable book on chinese medicine that it takes a man 100 days to recover from sperm loss (less so if it was exchanged lovingly with a healthy partner). I've also searched the forums here and found several informative articles on "jing" and sperm loss.

So a few questions:
1) How is it that male adult film stars are still alive?! And surely they must be impotent?
2) If such a person were to start practicing high-level Chi Kung would would it take much longer for them to regain their strength compared to a "normal" person?
3) Does wearing a condom prevent the natural mutual exhange of male / before.female energy through the genitals that occurs during intercourse?

I apologise if this appears crude or if these questions have been answered here previously.

Thanks in advance

[Antonius]

I read recently in a reputable book on chinese medicine that it takes a man 100 days to recover from sperm loss

Where did you read this? It's utter nonsense. Do you really believe that a healthy man can only have sex every 100 days? This post here shows a more realistic chart.

[Antidote]

Hello Christoff

Don't worry about adult film stars. If they are impotent or not, that's their bussiness. Nevertheless, i remember reading an article about that, and it seems they have even less sex that a normal man, because they will record some scenes in a movie, but the scenes will be recorded in several days, so they have plenty of time to rest and replenish themselfs.

In my opinion you should focus in what can you do with the information you got.
The knowledge about the power of continence is vast, in the medical field, in the warriors regime, in martial arts, in sports but for a "normal" man the keyword is moderation.
Any man can try and see the diference. Usualy even with a small period of continence is sufficient to feel the differences, more vitality physical and mental, acurate vision, increase in weight, etc.


There is a good book about the power of continence

Practice of Brahmacharya by Swami Sivananda

some of the negative effects of excess ejaculations written in that book and other books are not literaly and have profound meanings. But are frequent misunderstood and ridicularized by the modern society.

like "you became blind after excess ejaculations" this is quite true, but is seldom understood.


Tiago

[Christoff]

Hi Sifu Antonius,

Thank you kindly for your reply. You have destroyed some of my misconceptions regarding this issue. You also answered my second question.

However I disagree with the frequency that is mentioned in the chart. To play devil's advocate I'll exclude high-level chi kung for a moment. Given that in today's society we are exposed to high levels of stress, missing nutrients from foods owing to depleted soils, poor air quality and various forms of pollution and toxins, and also excessive exposure to sexual acts through media, I simply do not believe this is enough time for a man to renew his essence.

In Dr Yang Jwing Ming's book "The Root of Chinese Chi Kung", it is written that sperm is of the highest level of refinement of a man's essence. I can't find the quote but from memory the order of "refinement" is: Food and Air then>Chi>Blood>Bone Marrow>Sperm. It is also written elsewhere that "One drop of semen equals one hundred drops of blood".

Of course all this makes a great argument for men to do Chi Kung daily!

But given what I have said for the average man in today's society, I believe the figures in the chart you provided should be at least doubled.

[Andrew]

I believe the figures in the chart you provided should be at least doubled.

You are completely entitled to your beliefs ..... as is everyone else. The chart Anthony quoted is not just belief, though. It is taken from a Classical text.

Now, whether or not these numbers need modification due to modern factors, could be a discussion for scholars. For Chi Kung practitioners, rather than worry about numbers, it is better to enjoy life.

[Antonius]

However I disagree with the frequency that is mentioned in the chart. To play devil's advocate I'll exclude high-level chi kung for a moment. Given that in today's society we are exposed to high levels of stress, missing nutrients from foods owing to depleted soils, poor air quality and various forms of pollution and toxins, and also excessive exposure to sexual acts through media, I simply do not believe this is enough time for a man to renew his essence.

Do you have any evidence to support your theory, or are you just intellectualizing?

Also, do you practice chi kung? If so, then why are you intellectualizing?

[Daniel]

Hi Christoff,

First, don´t believe that all you see in porn movies is real. There are sure many tricks. Second, sex in natural and healthy, is both repression and obsession that are unhealthy. If you add true love to sex then it´s sublime.
Third, some of this actors (and their female counterparts too)are damaging themselves from the kind of movies in which they participate, specially when they show sadistic pratices or rape scenes. All of which is spiritually and mentally bad.

Greetings,

[parrapiti]

Is there a direct relationship between healthy sex practices and Shaolin Chi Kung?

Sure, enjoy both of them!

Piti

[Christoff]

Thank you so much for your replies all (apologies for the delay),
its helped clear some perverted views i've had regarding abstinence.

Parapitti, thank you for your simple and powerful comment!

[davie]

Hey man I think many porn actors actually have very good control and they don't come every time, ..

And I strongly agree that a healthy sex life and chi gung practice is all good,..when I was younger I was a monk for 3 years, and the sexual tension I felt nearly drove me insane! Happy balance is the way to go!

[chris3212]

Hello all,

Most "porn stars" do have good control or so I'm told. Some of which is similar in nature to Tantric techniques. Although maybe debased.

Definitely an interesting thread. However I have a question regarding the chart Sifu Anthony kindly made available on the forum. Am I reading the chart correctly when it says that for a 20 year old ejaculating two times a day leads to great health, where ejaculating once leads to average health?

Many thanks,

Chris

[Ronan]

Hey Chris, no I think that means that a 20 year old in good health can have sex twice a day without going downhill but another in average health can only go once. Its an interesting topic. I think that how often you ejaculate should depend on what your aims and objectives are. Of course its fine for any healthy young man to ejaculate regularly but if he had some problems to over come, like Depression or Anxiety I would recommend laying off it for a while. this is just my opinion from my own experience. Also for someone practicing martial arts or sports and wanting to be the best they can, I'd also advise them to cut down on the amount they ejaculate. I always remember what Sifu said though, if abstinence causes you great stress then its probably not best for you to continue with it. only abstain from Sex when u feel mentally ready for it. ie. you can go for sometime without loosing your Mind!

[Mbyte]

My first thought were that you thought adult film stars were doing it all the time. When I mean adult film starts I thought about the brad pitts and the sort. I then relaized you were talking about adult film stars.

The first thing one should know is that what you see in a movie is entirely different then its production and editing. Adult stars often have to go right into a scene and then the director will shout cut and they have to stop immidiatly and this would be done over and over. They would have to do things and follow a type position script. I have watched some reality adult star shows. Wear young men in england have fanatasies about being adult film stars wear they get to go with women all the time. The story is always the same. After wards when their dreams come true they tell the viewer how it's so much diffrent then what you see on tv. Having to straight into performance and then stop, performing infornt of camera's, cast and crew. Often the male would be told he would be performing in a few minutes and he should get ready and he wouldn't be able to get it up.

As someone has mentioned here they film one scene over a few days. I saw one show wear two adult stars were going out and their thinking about each other was that what the do is purely work and what they do together in their home is them and they saw it as two diffrent things. I don't know if they were saying one thing and feeling another. I felt they were saying one thing and feeling another. Maybe I was hoping they were saying one thing and actually feeling differently about it. Doing it for work and doing with a spouce wouldn't work for me. being an adult film star definatly wouldn't work for me. Adult fim industry is all about money. The adult film industry is massive in america and all over the world. The adult film industry is so big that it was an influencing factory over the brands of video tape VHS and betamax. Adult industry indorsed VHS instead of Betmax for film production. Think of Betamax and VHS like Blu-ray and HD DVD. Never heard of Betamax well in a few years no one will hear about HD DVD

Often when adult film stars get older they would find it hard to get it up and some would resort to viagra and other pills for performance purposes. I'm sure there are other problems with associated with being an adult film star. It's definatly not fun in the way most people think and it is work. Adult film stars would probably get dicarded ad the get older mainly because theye are older. Well depending on whats being produced.

As real film stars from hollywood say "Sex scenes are the most unsexiest scenes to film"

[Christoff]

Mbyte,

I never knew about what you have described. My first thought (which others have said before) after reading your post was - sex can only be nourishing when its with someone you love. And absolutely, being over-exposed to sex will probably dull your interest rather than spark it.

Cheers,
Christoff